Mythical Projected stats. - Page 3

Slippery · 02-12-2008, 01:12 PM

I will hold judgement till I have had a chance to fully test this weapon. However my expectations are not high.

First, I'm 95% sure that the spell double attack is going to scale against mob level so in VP and against contested that 10% may amount to like 3% and will practically never go off. That combined with the fact that I'd put money no a double of a dot only doubling the first tick and this shit becomes useless.

Second, do you think the base damage is going to stack with everything? Are you willing to bet that it stacks with both the bloodthirsty choker and the troub epic?

Third, the boe effect is still meh. All it is is the same effect as the CoD Robe. On AE's, Glacialshield, and Storming Tempest they only get 1/3 benefit since it counts as boe. It counts towards the boe cap also.

Fourth, the max power should be casting speed.

In the end you could very well be killing mobs in VP with an epic that is 8% crit and an alright proc. Wooo

dakkota · 02-12-2008, 02:45 PM

to your points.

1. maybe it will, or maybe its just a 10% chance as the Fire of Intellect proc is a 12% chance (i wish). If that happened it wouldn't scale, guess time will tell. - either way its a brand new ability given and I can't complain because I can't obtain spell double attack anywhere else.

2. I think it would be bad design to not stack with troub considering the whole intent was to get a raid full of mythicals to take on the top end contesteds or trak. From my personal PoV I can't get a group for the life of me to do SoF and apparently even though my guild never dropped Cmayong in Eof they are above his loot table now (go figure) - so I have none of those =/ I predict mythical will stack with existing items, guess ill play devil advocate here.

3. When it procs it will do a nice damage proc (first proc ive seen in forever that beats BCG's top end) and the BoE should be 320 - 360 spell dmg I think. While BoE is kind of ass-like to our major spells like tempest and glacial - I know I may never hit the cap with magma chamber, ball of magma, bolt of ice and so on. I don't think 2 major spells receiving 1/3 compared to the other slew of spells is enough to tarnish the ability much. The 10% passive dmg effect is what makes the proc a very acceptable one imo. and with higher damage/proc/proc chance I think it will fair pretty well.

Fouth - /agree Do they think we use manaburn or something? This is my only bone to pick with the mythical but, w/e. Just like our PoS fabled robe...10% max power vs the other classes 10% reuse/casting. Jokes!

EDIT: on a side note. Anyone think spell double attack is going to be a wizard exclusive type of thing for the mythical. Or are some high end contested items going to introduce the concept of spell double attacks? >.<

Slippery · 02-12-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dakkota

to your points.

1. maybe it will, or maybe its just a 10% chance as the Fire of Intellect proc is a 12% chance (i wish). If that happened it wouldn't scale, guess time will tell. - either way its a brand new ability given and I can't complain because I can't obtain spell double attack anywhere else.

The same could have been said of crit or melee double attack. Money says it scales against mob level, so the mobs you are supposed to be killing with your epic you aren't going to see it proc'ing like at all. Plus the dot probably not doubling up. Also, just because it says a percent instead of x times a minute does not mean that it isn't normalized because it still is.

2. I think it would be bad design to not stack with troub considering the whole intent was to get a raid full of mythicals to take on the top end contesteds or trak. From my personal PoV I can't get a group for the life of me to do SoF and apparently even though my guild never dropped Cmayong in Eof they are above his loot table now (go figure) - so I have none of those =/ I predict mythical will stack with existing items, guess ill play devil advocate here.

I think it would be bad design too, but there is a lot of bad designed shit in the game. A lack of understanding the game mechanics in play behind such a thing could very well lead to issues where they do not stack, not to mention that they might not have even been made by the same person.

3. When it procs it will do a nice damage proc (first proc ive seen in forever that beats BCG's top end) and the BoE should be 320 - 360 spell dmg I think. While BoE is kind of ass-like to our major spells like tempest and glacial - I know I may never hit the cap with magma chamber, ball of magma, bolt of ice and so on. I don't think 2 major spells receiving 1/3 compared to the other slew of spells is enough to tarnish the ability much. The 10% passive dmg effect is what makes the proc a very acceptable one imo. and with higher damage/proc/proc chance I think it will fair pretty well.

The damage proc is nice. Then we head back to what we are supposed to be killing with these. Avatars come to mind, avatars that have lots of adds, adds that you ae. AE's which don't gain the same benefit.

EDIT: on a side note. Anyone think spell double attack is going to be a wizard exclusive type of thing for the mythical. Or are some high end contested items going to introduce the concept of spell double attacks? >.<

It will be exclusive for a short time but not permanently

Yep

dakkota · 02-12-2008, 04:18 PM

Yeah i'm usually too optimistic for the likes of SoE but I try. Either way though the AoE's will gain their best benefits through base damage bonuses and this 1h already has that taken care of. I'd be rather pissed if we got that BoE proc without base damage though - that would be hosed. Question is I wonder how this Xpacks avatar mage 1h will be, the new staff of light if you will. Of course it will lack the class specific bonuses.

Slippery · 02-13-2008, 01:07 AM

Well the base damage at least stacks with everything so I can retract that concern. I'll comment on the rest this weekend or early next week when our timers are up and we can raid instances again.

Swolf · 02-13-2008, 01:15 AM

What the sweet fuck is with this +power shit, our fuckin robe too.. it makes me sick in my mouth everytime I see that on our gear