Fission AA ability combining new TSO 4set bonus

Xandruil · 01-09-2009, 09:27 PM

hi guys,

i was wondering about the 4set bonus of the new tso fabled set.

there, fission gets a recast reduction by 60 seconds.
so far so good.

but in the wizard line we get the fission AA ability which also reduces the recast time of fission respectably.

i still havn't got the 4set bonus of the new set. but i have skilled the fission AA ability.

now including my gear, i am already at the recast cap of fission which is around 1min 30 seconds.

that would mean that the 4set bonus is completly useless because most of the wizards who skilled the fission AA ability ( which is a must have because of the dmg increase ) are already at the recast cap of fission ?

what's your opinion.

thanks so far

dakkota · 01-09-2009, 11:03 PM

Im at like 1:40 something with alkabor and rok unkempt earring...it is still a bonus of small use but, you must have some crazy recast gear if you got it at 1:30 solo

Sintorah · 01-09-2009, 11:19 PM

Imo it still takes a lot of Reuse to cap Fission, it all depends what gear you're able to get your hands on.
You're in an Avatar Raiding Guild, so it might not be a problem for you to get the required Reuse, but many others are not, so many will want to acquire the 4 Set Bonus.
Besides of that, excluding Avatar Loot, there isn't better stuff for shoulders, pants, boots, cuffs and robe afaik, so it's an easy choice...
If you are capped, you might drop some Reuse gear for other equip if possible, maybe get Stoneskin to provide a better survivability if crit and fc are maxed out, too.

Ailees · 01-10-2009, 04:08 AM

I would so much love having that kind of problem ;)

Vexus · 01-10-2009, 04:40 AM

I'm not sure the problem...

60 sec from Gear
30 sec from AAs

Gear you will take for crit mit
AAs because it also boosts the Damage....

Yeah it's gonna be capped, it's base is 180 seconds, and that's 90 seconds there, which will cap it by itself, but I can't see any reason to not take the AAs, and the gear's gonna be needed for at least this expansion, unless something better comes along

Fomka · 01-10-2009, 05:58 AM

What gear do you have? Oo

Xandruil · 01-10-2009, 09:33 AM

i think some people missunderstood me.

iam not questioning the benefits the new tso fabled set brings along regarding every single item for each slot but! :
i see that not everybody will reach the fission cap with just 5points into "atom reaction" but everybody should get close enough that 60 seconds are not needed to reach the final cap.
in addition with tso release there are a dozen of items with recast time reduction on nearly every slot which can be lootet in group instances all over the add on or which can be purchased at the shard vendors.
so you don't have to be an avatar head hunter to reach the fission cap with the "atomreaction" AA ability.
in my eyes, sony has given away the chance to apply something more interesting for the wizard class on the 4set bonus.
like it is on the legendary set .... base dmg increase ! the more or less only thing to boost up your dps in a very big way.

and @ veus : of course you HAVE TO skill atomreactoin because of the insane 15% dmg increase ;)

edit : indeed iam not quite exactly on the 1:30 cap as dakkota said, it's something between 1:30 and 1:40s depending on the gear iam switching from time to time...
moreover, as a raid wizard, you get enough support to catch the max cap even if you don't get your perfect mage group constellation ;)
but that doesn't change my point.

Faolain · 01-12-2009, 01:31 AM

All I gotta say is be careful what you wish for. When the devs made a thread asking everyone what they wanted to see in their aa's and fabled set piece, wizards responded in overwhelming numbers saying they wanted fission recast reduction and as a result, we got enough to reach the cap easily. As much as I would love to see a modification to the 4-set bonus to make it more benificial, I do not see it happening since this is what we asked for in the first place.

Xandruil · 01-12-2009, 09:05 AM

@ faolain : but now we have 2 abilities for fission, which doesn't "stack" ; and one is making the other less useful. there are so many ways to boost the wizard's dps ( base dmg, decreasing the horrible resistability of our spells on mobs if they arent perfectly debuffed, bad casting time etc...) .

i cannot imagine that aeralik would have given the assassins 2 abilities who do actually the same...
concerning melee dps classes they were much more creative

Faolain · 01-12-2009, 06:46 PM

First off, pretty certain they do stack. Thats why everyone is reaching the cap. Second off, my point was simply to not expect a change since it was what we asked for in the first place.