uhh... wtf is this about - Page 2

Merlonus · 02-07-2009, 12:31 PM

i still think assassins and wizards should be on par, but lets get realistic, it wont happen

dakkota · 02-07-2009, 01:11 PM

Im still trying to figure out how they arn't on par.

Slippery · 02-08-2009, 01:47 PM

Arabel would be dominating tbh!

Merlonus · 02-08-2009, 03:00 PM

heh parsing 15-20k on trash like assy's do?
let alone 10-15k ZW's.

Merlonus · 02-08-2009, 03:07 PM

seriously wtf. this isnt even a top 5 asssy (to my knowledge)..compare that to dakkota's parses, or fuck get arabel geared back up and see if u can touch that...wizards should be ON fucking par with assassins. there is no denying some wizards can produce t1 DPS...but if u call wizzys t1 DPS then wtf are assassins? god?

just browse through thier parse thread and compare to ours. i dont think its the lack of skilled wizards (i think there are more skill players that play wizzies compared to assassins tbh...) idk what it is. but i dont see anything changing in the near future.

dakkota · 02-08-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlonus

heh parsing 15-20k on trash like assy's do?
let alone 10-15k ZW's.

Do you look at any of the zonewides wizards are posting?

Trash is such a minimal aspect to the raiding scene this xpack. And even on straight up trash mobs like Palace trash lots of wizards are coming in close with assassins or beating many.

Most named mobs sorcs are able to dominate because they either are massive AoE fights, require you to be mostly ranged or a combo of both. Were given fights like Gynok...does an assassin stand any chance at all against us there? On trash mobs we can come close to assassins. On massive AoE fights we should be much more ahead of them generally.

Lustrix · 02-09-2009, 12:55 AM

As far as I have seen. It takes a skilled assassin to beat me on parse. Our current assassin beats me on parse the majority of the time zone wide.

Supposedly we are supposed to be the "mage" equivilant to the "melee" dps of Assassins. But for whatever reason...from parses I have seen from many guilds, the Assassins are always number one. /shrug deal with it and dps your ass off and be content with giving your best and coming in second on parse to an assassin or /feedback. Do what you have to do. I do not get upset at coming in second to an Assassin, that i know is good and puts out good dps, ZW. I can beat our assassin on certain fights, but I will come in second to our assassin ZW. I know I do good dps. I also know I could be better. I also know there is gear out there that would help me a ton, but since I am not in an avatar killing guild, I will never see those pieces. Do the best with what you have. Striving to be better, get into a better guild, and get better gear is a good thing.

Parses/ACT are a great tools to look at your individual DPS, spell usage, timers, hit rate, using to improve your personal dps....etc.... However, its not quite fair to compare Wizard parse thread to Assassin parse thread. Its almost not fair to compare one wizard to another. You have to take into account all the factors. Gear, group set up, raid set up, encounter, over all raid dps...etc... There are so many variables its almost impossible to find an assassin that is geared almost idential to a wizard, have groups that buff each class to the tits, have similar raid set ups, on the same encounter, and do approximately the same raid dps. You also have to take into accunt the skill of the person beind the toon as well.

We are far from being the weaker link. I would not get too butt hurt over what assassins can do.

Wizards do not need a nerf. If any thing, we NEED SoE to decrease the chances of some of our spells resisting. I am seeing a ton more resist this expan and RoD and Hailstorm are terrible for resists.

I was confused by the Part " wizzies need to be nerfed to be once again biggest dps in game " that just doesnt make sense. We dont need a nerf, we need tanks and other classes to do thier job, harden the fuckup and drop their purses

SoE's new "aggro" mechanics is not working why the fighter changes have been delayed.

Wizards do not need a nerf just because we pull aggro or what not. IF and when the changes go into affect...it will take all classes some time to adjust. It just means watching your agro meter and learning to cycle in your deaggro/dehate/drop hate position...etc..

Blip, Concussive, Behavirol Modification thing from tinkering hot barred (if it works lol), FD clickies hot barred, your trak's gaze hot barred, etc...

It will take tanks taunting more and the DPS classes using their deaggros more often in their rotation...more often then we may like.

We are wizards, we are capable of putting out amazing dps numbers, so lets keep doing what we do best, dps our ass off, put out good numbers, and strive to be one of the best