dakster

Ive read through all the stickys, and the increasing raid DPS thread etc.

I have 1120 intelligence, 50% crit solo, without temp adorns, since im going by memory at work i dont remember my reuse and cast time stats. Basically im in mixed t1 t2 shard with my epic. I have 2 masters, Fission and Rays, rest are adept 3's.

I feel like a shitty wiz because my dps in groups is routinely 2200-2500. Is this as horrible as i think? Then the tank or dirge pulls 6k and 3.5k respectively and it just makes me mad like WTF. The only thing I can think of is gear and mythical but it boggles my mind how those things can make such a huge difference.

I parsed for about 2 hours on a dummy, even though i know its not super relevant, but its something. At first I was probly doing 2.2 to 2.4k dmg on average. I tried a whole bunch of different orders etc and i was able to raise my parses some on average to 2.6 to 2.9 on the dummy.

Long story long, what I did was moved all of my dots to the beginning of the order, and what im doing is, I never used to re cast a dot if it has refreshed but it was still ticking on the mob. What I did then was did all the dots, debuff first, freehand, fission, bolt of ice, go back hit all the dots again even if they were still ticking, then finish the rest of the DD's, then just cycle through as they re popped up, priority to spells on the left. Maybe im a bonehead for thinking that its a waste to cast a dot if its still on the mob, but playing my friends necro gave me the idea, and its raised my parse around 400 dps.

I basically am gonna call myself a worthless noob until i can hit 3.5 4k in instance groups on average, and around 6k in raids, then ill feel better. Is the difference from here to there just gear? Myth etc? Ill post some parses when i get home from work if anyone cares to try and find some improvments for me.

On a side note, on my second trip to SoH the hood of dark dealings dropped. I had practically no DKP at the time, so the other wiz got it for like 45dkp. He said the wizard before him had to go to 750. Kinda pissed me off.

Leandrizzle

My wizard alt is pretty shitty as well - consistent zw of 3k without a troub, and about 4k with a troub. In full T2, and just Legendary jewelry, fabled epic. All AD3, except Rays and Exothermicity and one of the mana transfers I never use. Therefore, I too, would be interested in what ppl have to tell you.

However, I think some of the 1st questions that people ask you would be to link your toon from eq2players, tell us more about your typical group setup and maybe post one of your zw parses. That'll help them critique you better.

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KKahn

Gear and mythical add the most to dps, imo. Then there is group makeup. We basically have to have a troub and illy to max. our dps. Then within the group, your dps is affected by how good the rest of the players' gear is and how well they use their buffs, debuffs, etc. If you are in a crappy group, your dps will suck. That is reality. Wizards are very reliant on group makeup. Solo'ing a dummy will just depress you unless you have guildies/friends with the buffs on you.

You probably can't help the groups you end up in, but you can improve your gear. You really need to focus on getting your crit up. 50% is very low for a level 80. You can run instances and start farming for higher crit gear. That will have a huge effect. Once you get a nice amount of crit you can focus on obtaining and selectively swapping in gear with procs and improved cast/reuse time. I think crit needs to come first.

Finally, I recommend following Daray's spell order in the guide. The math has already been done for you. Use first those spells that are the most efficient, then the rest. The idea is to get in as many of those "efficient" spells as possible. Also, don't wait for a spell to quit ticking on a mob. If it is refreshed, use it.

glok

Some thoughts:

1) with the exception of ice spears, the dots should be very far back in your casting order.
2) the closer you get to 100% crit, the better. the difference between even a weak crit on bolt of ice and an average non crit is HUGE.
3) definately soak up daray's numbers. it can be a lot, but it teaches you what to prioritize. Ball of magma is huge, and its a fast recast. do it right after fission/BoI and GO BACK TO IT EVERY TIME ITS UP AGAIN.
4) solar flare is actually worth casting now assuming you have AA's into strike of the mage (you should). It used to be pretty low priority but TSO has made it higher efficiency than even magma chamber.

and while I agree that wizards definately benefit from group makeup more than some classes, we arent worthless solo. I generally do about 9-10k on a training dummy with no buffs at all.

and my wizard wasn't around till january :p I've worked on his gear pretty hard, sure, but still

dakkota

Masters are really huge, I think the dmg increase was liek 11 - 13% from ad3 to m1's. So its pretty significant once you round them all up.

Best I could advise with gear would be to look at it and point you in the direction of easier to obtain upgrades.

It was mentioned use more ball of magma. Like on dummies my cast order will go, storming tempest > ro's coil > icy spears > ball of magma > bolt of ice > fission > ball of magma etc. I pretty much jam ball of magma to cast it everytime its up.

And yeah your group members will play a decent role in your dps for raids. The wizards posting crazy zonewides usually have really good group makeup and raiders that debuff the mob to death.

You didn't mention you AA either but, 172 is huge increases once you can spec in the final shadow line.

link your profile sometimes though, maybe theres some real clear gear upgrades you can go for that others would notice.

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dakster

Dakkota, why dont you cast the debuff dot before the things you have before it?

Here is my gear, My AA's are pretty low 140 I think. I still have lots of fens, JW, and all of Moors quests to do still though. Just have rather spent my time sharding and raiding.

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I know, lol @ my lvl 52 MC ring, but ive just been waiting to get one of the shard jewelry sets.

Other than that, I very much welcome pointing out upgrades I should go after.

Ive got a guildy that will duo SoH with me to try and get the choker, have gone once so far and no luck.

I also want the Ethernaut ear but I got up right when they nerfed the shiney rates and theyre just so goddamned expensive.

As far as raid group setup I should be in good shape, weve been picking up good amount of chanters/bards or people switching their mains to them. However I probably wont get the good single target buffs as there are 2 uber summoners that take precedence over me atm, especially at my current DPS.

Thanks

Faolain

I would disagree with you on that. By my math, even with the additional crit bonus, Solar Flare is still not very high dps efficiency, and definately not higher then magma chamber.

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Panora

My usual parse is between 4-7k with mix of t1 and t2 shard armor, my myth and a couple decent fabeld raid items. If your looking for a prefect group, you need a troub, illy, and a templar. and watch your dps hit 8-9k..=)

dakkota

I really havn't got sound reasoning. Ro's coil is focus damage so its going to hit anyway, and its weak at that to begin with. And well, I just like to get Tempest off as my very first spell.

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Circa

man i havent roughed up a dummy in a long time aside from going afk with auto attack on to get my crushing skill up. but yeah simple way to up your dps a bit is to melee any mob you can. youre gonna run in to cast fission anyway so just kick down an ambi casting while its goin off and youre set. but you just need to farm gear and do those quests damnit!!

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