FF Stuff - Page 3

Khryll · 06-30-2009, 07:02 PM

I sent a PM to Fyre about some of this..waiting on him to get back to me.

Fomka · 07-01-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mivius

The things that concern me again are rumors I hear from people coming back from FF about changes to existing gear...nerfing NoP to 12%, nerfing Anashti belt + adding neck similar to ToPF (12% base too, why the fuck even have avatar neck then?) to her, nerfing avatar robe to crit bonus instead of base (both static & proc)..just to name a few.

Would be fucking sweet if they do it. More crit bonus = win. Less base damage on the belt, even if it would be twice lower - big fucking deal, it's still top notch. Also there will be a reason to use inno's charm and we are still at base damage cap but with better dps from gear. Tho we might pretty much hit the crit bonus cap, but who cares

Balnazzar · 07-01-2009, 01:23 PM

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The reason to upgrade should always be because new gear is more appealing than the old. Not because the old gear has been lowered in value so much that new crappy gear looks better or equal.

I couldn't agree more. It's a bad way to go but unfortunately it's a template that other games have started using and now rather than think outside of the box, SoE is going to just duplicate it and probably fail at it.

To me it's simple, you should upgrade an item when you get a better one, not because it's simply "newer".

Valdrane · 07-01-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mivius

The things that concern me again are rumors I hear from people coming back from FF about changes to existing gear...nerfing NoP to 12%, nerfing Anashti belt + adding neck similar to ToPF (12% base too, why the fuck even have avatar neck then?) to her, nerfing avatar robe to crit bonus instead of base (both static & proc)..just to name a few.

We're already the sub-class with the worst raid itemizartion period, but to let Fyreflyte, a worthless, clueless imbecile touch any more loot after he's done an abyssmal job for multiple expansions is ridiculous. How about having the retard add mage loot to Ykesha, Field General, Myznak, etc, and fix the mage loot of Zarrakon, Tythus, and similarly ill-fated pieces that no one would do anything but transmute.

I'm going to stop there, as this really needs it's own thread IMO, but that's the news out of FF that concerns me: SoE's biggest failure in itemization is touching shit again...

I can answer conjectures about some of these based on a lengthy talk with Fyreflyte.

The Anashti Belt was ALWAYS supposed to be a Neck and it slipped through as a Belt. With the changes that are incoming and where FF plans itemization to be next tier, the Belt would be the best item for slot next tier unless something's done about it. That's why it's getting nerfed. I brought up the issue that without that 12 base spell damage the Vek2 and Kurn's belts would be the best item for the slot, and suggested that the Trak clickie get turned into a proc. It's being looked into.

Ykesha was mentioned about not having Mage loot and is being looked into, as is the Zarrakon wrist (and the horse, as the Shard one is better).

Keep in mind that the loot from Munzok and from the new zone(s) (there will be MULTIPLE raid zones before Sentinel's Fate) on its hardest difficulties will be > Avatar loot because the mobs are more difficult. Thus, the Avatar nerfs.

Technically, IAnashti after all the nerfs is more difficult than the easiest avatars, so progression will actually be correct to an extent after the changes, which aren't going in without the mobs getting nerfed down, as the devs realize that nerfing the items without nerfing the mobs would make certain mobs unkillable.

Mivius · 07-01-2009, 03:47 PM

Excuses are like assholes, everyone's got one, and they all stink.

dakkota · 07-01-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Valdrane

I can answer conjectures about some of these based on a lengthy talk with Fyreflyte.

The Anashti Belt was ALWAYS supposed to be a Neck and it slipped through as a Belt. With the changes that are incoming and where FF plans itemization to be next tier, the Belt would be the best item for slot next tier unless something's done about it. That's why it's getting nerfed. I brought up the issue that without that 12 base spell damage the Vek2 and Kurn's belts would be the best item for the slot, and suggested that the Trak clickie get turned into a proc. It's being looked into.

Even the name Belt of the Desolate one slipped through too

They sure didn't have a problem with making Bone-Clasped Girdle like the best belt until you basically killed Trakanon 2 expansions later. I just don't buy their shitty ass logic one bit. And I said from the start trak belt should be a proc. Dark orb of the Mind was a t7 10% base proc, sure it wouldn't pain them too much to give an item off the next expansions end boss a 12% base proc. Not like it was something the game had never seen.

And I'd still take Zarrakons whistle over that shard bear. =p

And loot quality for avatars shouldn't be sole based on difficulty. It looks like that is yet again their logic. How about the fact that avatar loot simply can't and wont get distributed all over the game as much as instanced loot. Some people have tried for years to get a Dark Orb of the Mind and failed because they can't just farm it and get access to its loot table consistently, nor as ofter as raid lockout timers that let you back in 3 - 4 days later. That's the point of contested quality loot, especially loot that vanishes every expansion. Same way some guilds are obtaining this avatar loot because they are pulling a force together at 8am to out-do their servers top guild. That's why the loot should always be highest quality on contested because its almost a backwards curve as the easier the contested mob is the more difficult its loot may actually be to get. Mayongs orb was easier to get when only 1 or 2 guilds could kill it, not everyone. Maybe avatars arn't flat out the hardest mobs but, mixed with their contested nature they should have better loot than an instanced mob even if the instanced mob might be technically a bit harder. Cause its harder at the leisure and pace of your own guild.