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Old 07-29-2009, 12:15 AM  
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Hey guys,

New wizard here and would like some input on PvP tactics. I am level 25, and now have my Wisdom line completed for AAs. What other line in KOS should I go down?

Most important is how I should go about soloing PvP, in other words, tactics/strategy. I now have manashield. How should I use manashield in PvP?

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Old 07-29-2009, 12:48 AM  
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hmm, you said you only completed WIS? I was going to say next go to STA but you said in the next line you already have manashield.

I don't know if you'll find much in depth pvp tactics from people here...not many of us are pvp wizards. I couldnt offer more than the obvious, like using stifes/stuns as much as you can on enemies and snare/root them to get away from melee classes, and maybe drop manashield as a nice save if shits about to hit the fan? But that all sounds like the obvious aspects, beyond that I'd just be speculating =p
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Thank you for the input Dakota. Perhaps I should have posted this in the PvP section. Well, I am also rolling a new wizard on a PvE sserver. Wondering the type of KOS build I should have for a solo wizard. I plan to cap my level in tier 2-3 for questing.

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Old 07-29-2009, 01:02 AM  
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in short you want wis/agi/str and heat/ice. If you want that expanded in greater detail check out the "Read This First" sticky and find Darays guide. It will tell ya the reasoning behind why and how exactly to better spend your points within those builds.
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Hey Dakota,

I'm not speccing for a raiding wizard just yet, and it seems that the thread is about maximizing DPS in raiding. I am rolling solo for a while. For solo, wouldn't STA line make any sense for survivability? STA 44881.

Okay, I noticed that this thread is pretty exhaustive. I will be spending a lot of time there. Nice sticky. But any other input is always welcomed. I hope there is some solo speccing info there. Reading the chain casting spell section now.

Hmm, seems a lot of this info is outdated. Nevertheless, it's better for me to read this than nothing.

I hpoe there is some info on solo wizards too. Doesn't seem like it though.

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Old 07-29-2009, 01:54 AM  
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solo/raid build is the same. We blow stuff up and dps it dead, its only function we need. Specing STA for solo gameplay is overkill and just a loss of dps for reaching the same simple outcome, we blow mobs up in just a few nukes. Only alteration I possibly see for raid setup is using a manaburn spec, which is catered pretty well and much more viable with correct raid buffs (or rare high end gear, which is why i don't advise it always, esp solo/group play). Solo mobs are too weak to even need MS and heroic mobs are too powerful for MS to help you, as they will just smack you a few times, drain you to 0 mana, then kick your ass.

And its not outdated really, nothing has changed since they've been released. The EoF tree is like exactly how it was upon releast of EoF im fairly sure...so even though the advice was given in EoF, the same applies - just now its even more effortless as you have 20 more AA's to spend under that tree, so just fill in the holes. TSO though is pretty straight forward when it comes to AA specing, the dps choices stick out like sore thumbs if you read all the descriptions.

Again to reiterate, solo build = group build = raid build..its all the same on a wizzy for the most part aside from the manaburn aspect I brought up. MS is nice for dueling and PvP pretty much. Become more efficient and masterful with your stuns/snares and you won't ever need MS to solo.
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solo/raid build is the same. We blow stuff up and dps it dead, its only function we need. Specing STA for solo gameplay is overkill and just a loss of dps for reaching the same simple outcome, we blow mobs up in just a few nukes. Only alteration I possibly see for raid setup is using a manaburn spec, which is catered pretty well and much more viable with correct raid buffs (or rare high end gear, which is why i don't advise it always, esp solo/group play). Solo mobs are too weak to even need MS and heroic mobs are too powerful for MS to help you, as they will just smack you a few times, drain you to 0 mana, then kick your ass.

And its not outdated really, nothing has changed since they've been released. The EoF tree is like exactly how it was upon releast of EoF im fairly sure...so even though the advice was given in EoF, the same applies - just now its even more effortless as you have 20 more AA's to spend under that tree, so just fill in the holes. TSO though is pretty straight forward when it comes to AA specing, the dps choices stick out like sore thumbs if you read all the descriptions.

Again to reiterate, solo build = group build = raid build..its all the same on a wizzy for the most part aside from the manaburn aspect I brought up. MS is nice for dueling and PvP pretty much. Become more efficient and masterful with your stuns/snares and you won't ever need MS to solo.
Well, thank you VERY much. This REALLY cleared up A LOT of things Dakota. Will keep reading the wealth of knowledge on the sticky, and thnaks so much. So I'll go downthe AGI, WIS and STR lines for sure.

One other thing, on the pve server I will be on I plan to RP, which includes me dueling quite a bit with my guild.; The dueling aspect (for role play) will be quite important to me. (Going to get an AA Mirror for when I am not RP for that aspect in the guild)

For dueling, is manashield a must? How would I go about using the manashied in a duel? Manashield, icy spears (or stun), stun, root, then nuke? Does this sound about right? What other lines should I go down with STA (for dueling) 44881? WIS and AGI or WIS and STR?

Thank you again Dakota. I didnt get anywhere on the PvP forum, other than "dont suck" lols. Starting to lean more towards PvE I think, but dueling for RP purposes.


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Old 07-29-2009, 04:19 AM  
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In duels we pretty much flat out suck against (assuming the player isn't shit geared and knows how to hit the right buttons) every scout, brawlers, and enchanters and wardens. I could slaughter a lot of classes back before they nerfed and nerfed stoneskin so much. It used to just proc like crazy and regen HP rapidly, making MS like a 30s /god effect. But now, not soo much. =/

Now Wizard verse summonesr, sorcerers, fury, warriors and crusaders is good times.
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:33 AM  
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For pvp, get your manashield first, after that it helps to go over to the EoF tree and dump 10 points into magishield, then come back and get your cast speed out of the agi tree.
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I thought wizards just came out of invis. Root, Ice Comet, Stun, Reroot, Fussion, Ball of Lava, Re root. stuff dead..... The ae snare is nice too. Makes me want to roll a wiz on nagafen actually
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