Raid Wizards and Manaburn

Hujul · 05-27-2007, 10:50 AM

Well it seems to be the general conception the only nub raid wizzies use manaburn. So I guess I'm one of those nub wizzies

I must admit that a big part of it is the fun factor. I like to solo and group as well, and blowing shit up in a big way is uber fun for me

But it isn't just that, I quite like using MB on raids as well. To dps well as a wizzie I have found that I need to push the envolope with my nukes. Getting them off at the earliest opportunity, and nailing them again when the timer is refreshed. Its this riding the fine line of death that I love. Manaburn just adds to this excitement for me.

So I'm just wondering how many uber wizzies have tried this and found it effective.
I suppose the 2 biggest arguments for not using it are the power loss and the perception that it equals instant death.
Tbh I haven't really found this to be true. With good communication with chanters and MT I think pulling agro and regaining power can easily be handled. Also MB is often timed to finish off a mob. A good grp setup and gear certainly makes a difference as well. Doubt I'd have if I didn't have all my power procing gear. I also go threw Overclocked Manastones like crazy, and take advantage of lore items like power root.
The wizzie in my guild has it too. Quite often we both use it on the same mob. One at the beginning of the fight, the other to help finish it off. So I don't really see that as a problem.
I think I generally parse pretty decent as a wiz. Ofc I'm always looking for ways to improve. Hence this post. So again just wondering if any uber wizzies use MB in raids, found it effective, and generally parse 2.5k+ ZW.

Fomka · 05-27-2007, 02:45 PM

i was using manaburn for some time, and yeah i liked it. My zw parses on easy zones were higher than they are atm, but... I cant see myself using manaburn on avatar fights, or both mayongs (well I can but without it's full potential).
Imho it's ok to be manaburn specced if you're not in some hardcore guild which kicking the shit our of anything in this game.

Hujul · 05-27-2007, 08:31 PM

Yeah, I can certainly see your point on long fights.
There are a number of encounters that are just too long to be able to use MB effectively. I don't really mind actually, can still parse pretty decent without it. Guess the question becomes is the fire line that good that it would make a significant difference on Avatar fights. I've never tryed it, but doesn't seem to have the "teeth" of say the cold line with Iceshape/FG.

Illuminator · 05-27-2007, 08:51 PM

Iceshape/FG5 is non-negotiable. You will spec it or be considered a retard!

Hujul · 05-27-2007, 09:03 PM

lol, ofc I have it, and use it religously, another one of my favorite spells.

but what do u think of the fire line lumi? your a bit of a math wiz, does it really make a significant difference on avatars? trying to weigh the pros and cons here.

Illuminator · 05-27-2007, 11:09 PM

I was staring at IS5/Fireshape and scratching my chin today, I've been wondering about it myself. I haven't tried it yet but I'll give it some thought in the days to come. I wonder if Time Compression or Robe of Al'Kabor turns it into a must-have.

Slippery · 05-28-2007, 02:30 AM

Fireshape + Inferno Surge pwns on AE encounters (like the brownies that we don't have to fight anymore)

Mareth · 05-28-2007, 08:12 AM

Which one takes precendence? Say if I have fireshape up, and wiz2 casts FG5/Iceshape, what happens to my spells?

Fomka · 05-28-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mareth

Which one takes precendence? Say if I have fireshape up, and wiz2 casts FG5/Iceshape, what happens to my spells?

I bet my money the last one casted takes over. ie other wizzie casted fs+fg5 and then 5 secs after u casted fireshape=fireshape working, and otherwise. Well I might be wrong but I wont respec 2 times to test it

and anyway imho fireshape suck.

Mareth · 05-28-2007, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fomka

I bet my money the last one casted takes over. ie other wizzie casted fs+fg5 and then 5 secs after u casted fireshape=fireshape working, and otherwise. Well I might be wrong but I wont respec 2 times to test it

and anyway imho fireshape suck.

Yeah, don't have fireshape, was just curious how it'd work