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Old 11-09-2006, 02:19 PM  
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Just as an experiment...let's see how they all look together, shall we?









Gah, nm...there are too many and I have to take my son to swimming lessons. I think, if nothing else, the two skellies doing it doggy style proves my point alone.

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Old 11-09-2006, 03:00 PM  
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Honestly, I would tend to agree with you. However, LFG has drawn that line a lot farther away than I would to allow as much freedom as legally possible for members. For example, prior precident has made breasts and nudity not involving genatalia okay to at least link with NSFW warnings. But I don't enforce my personal feelings on the subject, I enforce LFG's rules.

I'll let LFG comment on these, if he chooses to.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:42 PM  
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Go ahead and continue to show us all how much you need attention. Feel free to keep going to the local Starbucks, friends computers, proxy/socks servers, etc., and making new accounts to express your feelings of outrage and lack of education.

But I'm not giving a terrorist an audience. So in the future, each time you make up a new user name and post to show everyone how cute you are, I'm gonna delete your stupidity as I've just done here.

This is much less work for me than it is for you, and it also provides entertainment for our users.

Thank you for being our poster child.

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:10 PM  
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* chuckles *

Too funny. I'm just too amused to even try to flame.

Get over yourself. You broke one of what? Three rules? This site is so laid back and you couldn't even cope with that.

Just grow up.

Actually... please don't. It's much more fun to watch the immaturity fly. Makes the day fly by.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:36 PM  
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That'd be.... 4 accounts banned. And three IP's, I think. For someone who doesn't give a hoot, maria sure is trying hard to keep posting.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:54 PM  
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Just as an experiment...let's see how they all look together, shall we?









Gah, nm...there are too many and I have to take my son to swimming lessons. I think, if nothing else, the two skellies doing it doggy style proves my point alone.
There is universal legal agreement that pornography and obscenity cannot be reduced to a legal definition, because what is obscene and pornographic depends on individual and community standards.

On this site, I am the referee of what is and is not obscene and pornographic. In my opinion, none of those images are NSFW. Can any user of this site say that they would actually lose their job if their boss walked up and saw them viewing a non-graphically sexual 90x90 pixel image? I don't think so.

You have to look at the chihuahua for a long time to even figure out that those are testicles rather than a leg or something. And so what? You can see dog balls everytime you go out in public. That is natural. What is unnatural, and obscene in my opinion, is someone jacking off a dog. Don't you understand the difference between a sexual act and a regular picture of a dog? Don't you see the issue between a tiny 90x90 pixel avatar non-sexual images and a 5x7 inch photo of a person playing with an animal penis?

On this site, I am the referee of what is and is not obscene and pornographic. I've spent hundreds of hours trying to make this site fair for everyone so I cannot be accused of favoritism. There is no possible way to avoid ever being accused of favoritism based on your concepts and definitions unless I simply ban ALL graphical images from this site. I'm not willing to do that, I'd rather use my common sense and just try and keep NSFW content off this site. Animated graphics of skeletons humping are not NSFW IMO. Ron Jeremy in full glory with Jenna Jameson is NSFW.

I loosely define NSFW by what I call the "Maxim" rule. Maxim is a "softcore" men's magazine. The way I look at NSFW, if it couldn't be published in Maxim, it shouldn't be on this site either.

I'm a busy person with many things to do, and it will not be possible for me to debate each and every item that is posted here. If you don't like my simple rules, and don't think I'm fair, please don't use this site. If you don't understand the difference between a 90x90 pixel pic of a small dog with big nuts, and a 5x7 graphic of a person grasping an animal penis, please don't use this site.

But walk a mile in my shoes first. You think you know what's fair and what isn't fair? Then put your money where your mouth is. Go ahead and write a rule that will prevent NSFW content from being posted, but will allow normal people who are having fun to post all other content and not feel like they are being censored. Go ahead, you make it sound easy.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:12 PM  
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So this is what ive been saying all in one post. YOU TOLD HIM 'post a reply if you want' then He couldn't with that account so he made another to post his reply and She banend him for it....after you told him he could..
It looks like a Huge fucking lack of communication between you and your Mod/admin w/e. Just as there are rules for the users a set of rules Needs to be definded for your Admins. Why? because maybe you wont allways be there? maybe you will have more then 1 when you open new sites? Maybe She made the WRONG Call and you need to fix it and see the Whole picture not just what she feeds you.

and as Brailyn just told you the picture was not as offensive as she made it sound. As well she claimed we were calling her a liar? and she still had the evidence? But when someone asks for it, it conveniently is there anymore because 'Kiddo' uses that computer.

ITS BULLSHIT AND IM CALLING YOU OUT
and Calling him a Terrorist becasue he called you a gutpig is the stupidest thing I have heard all Year. Trying to justify your actions by calling someone a terrorist? your no better then the senator in the 1950's who sent people on a Fear driven witch hunt for "Communist Spies"
You are completely misinformed and full of shit.

I've already explained what happened. I made that post inviting him to post a response if he wanted to, and then I WAITED FIVE FUCKING HOURS FOR HIM TO MAKE THAT POST, ASSHOLE. After that time, when no post appeared, I did exactly what I said I was going to do, and banned the second account he created. Where do you get these additional facts you are making up?

It's bullshit and you're calling me out, comparing me with Joseph fucking McCarthy? Dear God. I didn't call him a terrorist for calling me a gutpig, although I think he sounds extremely fucking stupid when he uses that term every third sentence.

I called him a terrorist because he is making terrorist attacks against this site by continuing to post and create problems after he's been banned. This has nothing to do with him calling me names. Again, where the fuck do you think up this stupid nonsense?

Why you defending Maria anyway? You think I'd let that cocksucker back on this site after what he's done? The original issue is moot now and pales in comparson to the later issues.

You are just butthurt because I returned your donation. You think you can buy everything, and that money can buy respect.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:20 PM  
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If you are seriously trying to make this a SFW site, you both have a TON of work ahead of you. And to start with, LFG is going to have to stop telling the locals to fuck off in big caps. Any of this seem hypocritical to you? /shrug
I like to curse. I think it adds to language what spice adds to food.

I will continue enforcing a NSFW picture rule, and allowing people to use the F word.

If you disagree with me and think there is no difference between photos and text, please just don't use this site.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:51 PM  
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Leaving the ejaculate question aside for the time being, I got enough reports on that pic that I was not the only one who thought it was over the line. A human holding a dog penis (or any other kind of genatalia) is NSFW unless you work in animal husbandry, and this is not a dog breeding or vetrinary site. The picture was obscene. It broke the rules.
This is a good point. I got THREE EMAILS and 2 PMs, all from different people, about the pic Maria posted. That is the equivalent of a user red alert. So it wasn't just Calthine who thought the pic was obscene and pornographic.

You know how often I get emails and reports about people's posts? There are only two types really.

Type 1 is the person who feels embarrassed about a situation they caused and wants to "make it all go away" or escape the consequences of thier stupidity and asks me to delete a post or thread. I refuse to do delete those posts every time, we don't do that here.

Type 2 is an email or PM from someone who sees a NSFW pic posted on this site. About a month ago, when someone posted a pic of a man squatting, with his colon extending out his anus, I got one PM. Also about a month ago, when someone posted a link to a video of a man jacking off a horse and then twisting quickly and inserting the horse's penis in his anus, I also got one PM.

5 user reports is significant, and means to me that at least 5 different people, plus Calthine, considered what Maria posted to be in violation of the Site Rules.

Let's summarize where we are:

-I don't care if you don't see a difference between swear words and sexually oriented, graphically explicit pictures. I do, and a great majority of the rest of the "PG" and "R" rated forums on the Internet do also.

-The definition of what is pornographic and obscene on this site is not negotiable. It is not subject to your opinion. It would defeat the purpose of even having a NSFW rule if we had to allow a user vote to determine whether every pic posted was NSFW or not, wouldn't it?

-I don't have time to seek community census before deleting every obscene and graphically explicit sexually related photo that is ever posted on this site. I have better things to do. As discussed, one person must be in charge of the decision about what is and is not allowed. That person is me. I'm going to continue doing the same thing in the future, regardless of whether you disagree with me or not.

-It is true I have only warned people in the past on a first offense for posting pics that violate how I interpret the Site Rules. I probably would have only deleted the pic, and warned Maria, had I gotten to the pic first when the user alarm started going off. Nonetheless, I shortened Calthine's ban of Maria to a three day suspension, because she made that call and I am going to support it by at least reducing it to a minimum penalty, as I did.

-But then Maria began flagrantly violating additional rules on this site and posting about how he didn't have to follow rules and would continue to attack this site after being suspended. So I perma banned him and his IP numbers, and will continue to delete everything he posts in the future, whenever he logs on from a friend's comp and wants to show us how much he needs attention and how little his mother loved him.

-In the two months this site has been active, I've only banned 4 people. Each were intent on harming this site, or were doing extremely stupid shit like uploading beta screens in violation of the NDA. That's why I banned them. I've deleted text only twice so far I believe - once was a user using specific racial slurs against black people, and the other was the post Maria just made by making another user account. I'll continue deleting everything Maria posts from new accounts and all the IP numbers he uses. Truly, this is far more work and hassle for him than for me.

-I realize Maria may be a friend to those posting in his defense, but your friend is a fucking retard and his need for attention has gotten past the point of annoyance. Do you condone what he's doing now? Why are you still supporting him?

-I will continue enforcing the Site Rules as they are written now. I will continue issuing warnings and penalties at my discretion, but in the future will generally issue a 3 day suspension rather than a warning for first offenses related to the posting of porn pics.

That's pretty much it. If you want to contribute, write NSFW rules for community review. If you want to continue typing, feel free to do that also.
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