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11-09-2006, 01:16 PM
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Character: Rinion
Server: Zul'jin
Posts: 3,424
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
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Originally Posted by LFG
On second thought, I really can't trust you, since you apparently have zero respect for rules and honesty. So I just permanently disabled your ability to use an avatar and sig on this site. Post a reply if you want, and I'll read it in the morning if you do before merging fhtm into your other account and extending your suspension for a few extra days.
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aacttuallly, you didn't leave my second account open, both are still banned, so I'm making a third to make you and myself even more happy. and its seriously lame to threaten people that you'll ban their IP. Oh no's !! ban my ISP, ban my IP !! anyone can get around a ban from a forum of they truely want to, it's not quite hard, if you're really that dense go to google and figure it out.
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Originally Posted by Calthine
For circumventing your ban by registering a new account, you earned a perma-ban. Buh-bye.
All LFG asks here is people respect the rules. The rules are designed to keep this site alive for everyone. People like you ruin it for everyone.
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So this is what ive been saying all in one post. YOU TOLD HIM 'post a reply if you want' then He couldn't with that account so he made another to post his reply and She banend him for it....after you told him he could..
It looks like a Huge fucking lack of communication between you and your Mod/admin w/e. Just as there are rules for the users a set of rules Needs to be definded for your Admins. Why? because maybe you wont allways be there? maybe you will have more then 1 when you open new sites? Maybe She made the WRONG Call and you need to fix it and see the Whole picture not just what she feeds you.
and as Brailyn just told you the picture was not as offensive as she made it sound. As well she claimed we were calling her a liar? and she still had the evidence? But when someone asks for it, it conveniently is there anymore because 'Kiddo' uses that computer.
ITS BULLSHIT AND IM CALLING YOU OUT
and Calling him a Terrorist becasue he called you a gutpig is the stupidest thing I have heard all Year. Trying to justify your actions by calling someone a terrorist? your no better then the senator in the 1950's who sent people on a Fear driven witch hunt for "Communist Spies"
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Last edited by Rinion; 11-09-2006 at 01:18 PM.
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11-09-2006, 01:19 PM
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Rose Colored Glasses
Character: Kiana
Guild: Domini Artificium
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 2,416
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
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Originally Posted by Rinion
no listen, I think you do a great job. I dont mean write out what yo said. there simply needs to be a policy set FOR your admins (I guess we dont liek the mod term? really yhr same thing...) and im not saying Calthane does a bad job either. But things like that, which can easily be mis-interpreted SHOULD be run by you to make a unanimous decision. You have made mention of branching off to other games? so would it not be plausible for you to have these kinds of procedures or do you plan on personally admining everyone of them yourself?
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LFG is always the final appeal. I'm an Admin becuase I do more around here than "moderate". We don't moderate, unless there's a violation of the site rules. The rules are realy pretty simple and any human being with a tiny bit of common decency should be able to handle them. I don't make policy, I just enforce it for LFG. And I have more than once asked LFG his opinion privately so I have a good understanding of how he wants them enforced.
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Originally Posted by Brailyn
the pic wasnt masturbation, nor ejaculation... it was such a small animal that fur was being moved aside to show the size of the penis, or indicating that it was indeed male. It was a puppy at best... there was no red rocket, there was nothing disturbing about it. To be honest you had to REALLY look for a sec to even realize WHAT it was.... It might not even have been a dog. Maybe a cat, or something. You guys are going WAY overboard....
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Originally Posted by Rinion
So as a Third neutral party taking on the persona of a Judge, who do I believe? Was it porn or was it a animal breeder?
the Obvious choice is that I take a look at the evidence and decide for myself.
But just like the SoE Eq2player forums this site's admins seem to be neither neutral or True to there Freedom of speech flame boards and have clearly taken sides with each other and "fuck" everyone else.
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Leaving the ejaculate question aside for the time being, I got enough reports on that pic that I was not the only one who thought it was over the line. A human holding a dog penis (or any other kind of genatalia) is NSFW unless you work in animal husbandry, and this is not a dog breeding or vetrinary site. The picture was obscene. It broke the rules.
I made the call, LFG has heard the appeals here and come down in favor of my decision. If you don't like the rules LFG wrote for the site, you don't have to hang out here. I really hate having to step in and play mod frankly, but some stupid people seem hell-bent on pushing the rules as far as they possibly can.
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11-09-2006, 01:21 PM
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Rose Colored Glasses
Character: Kiana
Guild: Domini Artificium
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 2,416
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
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Originally Posted by Rinion
So this is what ive been saying all in one post. YOU TOLD HIM 'post a reply if you want' then He couldn't with that account so he made another to post his reply and She banend him for it....after you told him he could..
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Read that first bit you quoted, LFG also said he'd take action against him if he posted.
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11-09-2006, 01:41 PM
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2 scccrrrddd 2 pvp
Character: Rinion
Server: Zul'jin
Posts: 3,424
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
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Originally Posted by Calthine
Leaving the ejaculate question aside for the time being, I got enough reports on that pic that I was not the only one who thought it was over the line. A human holding a dog penis (or any other kind of genatalia) is NSFW unless you work in animal husbandry, and this is not a dog breeding or vetrinary site..
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There is a report function? where please?? define enough 1? 2? 5? out of the other XXXX users here? or since there is no obvious report function were these others friends of yours or worse imaginary?
As i read it, when discussing this kind of thing you may post a link with the NSFW Warning. So please do so. or was it not soemthing obscene like "dogsgonewild" maybe just maybe.. it was posted off his private sever, or photobucket? Just because it wasn't a vet site or animal husbandry site it is obscene?
Well let me tell you I Find the avatar of the dog testicles very obscene and NSFW at all.
back to this again - "A human holding a dog penis (or any other kind of genatalia)"
So if i post a picture of two warthogs fucking or a dog licking himself its ok? because a human wasn't involved and its a part of the human experiance?
half nakid women on National Geographic area part of the human experiance, may i post that to? Even though a full breastshot is NSFW..but hey its from national Geographic it but be ok.
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"Before one can identify anything as "gray", one has to know what is black and what is white. In the field of morality, this means that one must first identify what is good and what is evil. And when a man has ascertained that one alternative is good and the other evil, he has no justification for choosing a mixture. " Ayn Rand
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11-09-2006, 01:49 PM
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Character: Stede Hermaphro'Phal
Guild: Ethereal Legacy
Server: Bazaar
Posts: 76
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
For a site that was created due to hypocritical moderation on eq2players, I find this whole thread going to some very funny places.
Calthine if where you work comes into play in judging what is NSFW, this whole wicket just got a lot stickier. I work in an elementary school. This whole site is NSFW, imo. Henladar has a sig with the words, "I am a cocky motherfucker" in 44pt font and bright red. You think someone's boss is going to approve of that when they walk up vs a muddled pic of a dog's penis? Or a chihuahua's testicles? How about Henladar's "bird" avatar? Exill's bouncing boobs? Tangarth's "Eat Dispatch BITCH"? Or what about when someone is getting a good rant on and types "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CUNT-LAPPING BULLSHIT-EATING MOTHERFUCKER" in giant magenta letters? NSFW indeed.
If you are seriously trying to make this a SFW site, you both have a TON of work ahead of you. And to start with, LFG is going to have to stop telling the locals to fuck off in big caps. Any of this seem hypocritical to you? /shrug
I agree with you that Maria shouldn't have been making multiple socks to evade your bans and suspensions. Whether the original suspension was called for though is highly questionable. And whether people should be reading these boards at work and whether these boards are SFW at all is laughable.
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11-09-2006, 01:49 PM
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2 scccrrrddd 2 pvp
Character: Rinion
Server: Zul'jin
Posts: 3,424
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
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Originally Posted by Calthine
Read that first bit you quoted, LFG also said he'd take action against him if he posted.
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"On second thought, I really can't trust you, since you apparently have zero respect for rules and honesty. So I just permanently disabled your ability to use an avatar and sig on this site."
how is disableing avatars and sigs "taking action"? I did read it, Did YOU?
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"Before one can identify anything as "gray", one has to know what is black and what is white. In the field of morality, this means that one must first identify what is good and what is evil. And when a man has ascertained that one alternative is good and the other evil, he has no justification for choosing a mixture. " Ayn Rand
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11-09-2006, 01:50 PM
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Rose Colored Glasses
Character: Kiana
Guild: Domini Artificium
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 2,416
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
The report function is in the lower-left hand corner of every post. Mouseover the triangle with the exclaimation point on it, it's kinda obvious. There's also this cool function you might have heard of call Private Messages.
I'm done arguing with you about it. I made my decision, explained it to my boss when I did it, and frankly, that's the only person to whom I have to justify my administrative actions. I have much better things to do today than have you on my ass for a decsion I made and LFG supported.
PS: isn't it nice to be on a site where you can argue with the Admins about this kind of shit? And not be suspended or have your posts edited? Gee, wonder who wrote the rules that way.
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11-09-2006, 01:51 PM
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Rose Colored Glasses
Character: Kiana
Guild: Domini Artificium
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 2,416
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
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Originally Posted by LFG
On second thought, I really can't trust you, since you apparently have zero respect for rules and honesty. So I just permanently disabled your ability to use an avatar and sig on this site. Post a reply if you want, and I'll read it in the morning if you do before merging fhtm into your other account and extending your suspension for a few extra days.
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That one.
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11-09-2006, 01:54 PM
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Rose Colored Glasses
Character: Kiana
Guild: Domini Artificium
Server: Nektulos
Posts: 2,416
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
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Originally Posted by Phalphoto
Calthine if where you work comes into play in judging what is NSFW, this whole wicket just got a lot stickier.
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I'm a stay home mom. If we were using MY rules for "NSFW" this whole site would not exist, lol. I was actually using the Site Rules when I did this:
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A. Porn: Don’t post any “not safe for work” or “NSFW” images on this site, especially any pornographic, obscene, fetish, or explicit medical pictures, photos, or other images.
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11-09-2006, 02:07 PM
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2 scccrrrddd 2 pvp
Character: Rinion
Server: Zul'jin
Posts: 3,424
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Re: Your Server Sucks - The Bazaar and Shadowhaven
im sorry for your weak comprehnsion skills, I really am. they
When i read that LFG is implying he will be adding extra days to his suspension Reguardless as well as merging the two account into one so they all say maria rather then maria and fthm (which didnt seem to happen as i still see fthm's name) and invtited him to make a response.
he didnt say im merging your accounts and suspending you extra days, make a response and you will be punished further. But if this is what he actually meant then what he said was very misleading.
A. Porn: Don’t post any “not safe for work” or “NSFW” images on this site, especially any pornographic, obscene, fetish, or explicit medical pictures, photos, or other images.
thats how we define NSFW then huh? like the dog testicle avatar? looks like a fedish to me and a pair of testicles is VERY sexual. and if it isnt because its a dog...then why was the puppy picture sexual?
Either way consider this a report against Bowee's Avatar or the dog testicles and as Phal mentioned a report against the bouncing Boob, and the dancing girls shaking there asses as they are all obcene, Fetish, pornographic, or a combination of the three.
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"Before one can identify anything as "gray", one has to know what is black and what is white. In the field of morality, this means that one must first identify what is good and what is evil. And when a man has ascertained that one alternative is good and the other evil, he has no justification for choosing a mixture. " Ayn Rand
Last edited by Rinion; 11-09-2006 at 02:17 PM.
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