Zerina

Ok, for the short bus...I am refering to this thread as the Bash Fabled Bandwagon. I apologize for not stating that in retard speak for you.

I was informed that you guys were new to the server, (I wonder why you all switched servers?) but I also was told in tells and in vent that "I FULLY researched all the potential guilds for an alliance." Disinformation FTW!

As for the curing argument you are obviously mistaken hell i don't even know how long ago that raid was but Fraps tells me Fabled brought 3 healers. One in grp1,2,4 Grp 2 inquis wasn't even a Fabled Member so whatever......

As for calling people retarded who aren't even participating in this flame. I suggest you seek professional help with that. Eventually, you will have enough self esteem that you won't need to flame innocent bystanders, or demand that you recieve all the casting speed increases yourself so you can compensate for your undersized reproductive organs with a higher parse. Yay, don't let slow casting healers cast faster no wonder why healers in grp two healers had problems. WTG! BTW, that inquis doesn't have the raid experience that some of us others have.

As, for your tank going LD. I spent about 20-30 mins telling your PR person that we didn't need him we had enough tanks...He could have given the spot to some other person that needed their SoD updates but as in your statement later that your guild obviously lacks integrity. We were being nice and giving the loot we could have kept it for our guild bank, but...wait maybe I should start a flame towards your guild. Naw, I don't have the time to waste on all that.

Oh Alph lets hog that cast speed increase so that the mystic and inquis couldn't cast their heals faster..GOOD CALL!!!

Anyways, there were pickups besides our two guilds so maybe you should have studied the grps a little more..

Anyways, looks like you may have something going on in there with PM2 so i wish you all good luck and happy hunting. I wont judge everyone for two peoples ignorance.....

P.S. A wise man once said "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

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Zerina

LvL 80 Tin Tank
Black

Seek first to understand...then to be understood....

Aph!

nah their dps sucks too i got the shortbus group and still outparsed everyone

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Flica

Okay let me get a few things straight here.

Mistmoore Inner Sanctium is a cure fest. By a cure festI mean cures of every type of spell effect.

The very fact that Aphelion was not getting cures on him with 2 healers in the group is pathetic from a healer stand point. Considering he is normally in the mage group with myself as the only healer in that group and he is normally healthy.

The fact that I was jumping between cures in my own group and wrestling with group cures, group heals, heals on aph, heals on the MT, and heals in group 4 could be a reason why I was 3rd on the heal parse and why I beat your 3rd healer, which was a warden in the MT, on ZW heals. I even proposed to aph to setup macro's for each spell effect to send a tell to me so I could cure it off him. You can't expect to just heal through every effect through the zone when its not within the ease of casting a simple group cure.

Now does this mean Fabled's healers just plain suck? Not really. These guys could have been backups or maybe they are great healers and just need some fine tuning in regards to raiding priorities. I did notice Image wasn't healing, he was on an alt instead iirc. I've grouped with him and he seems to be pretty good.

Cronicus, your a good MT, at least from my perspective. You switch from play time to game time very well when dealing with raid encounters. Though I heard that you can have a temper sometimes and you made numerous notions about it during the raid.

Zerina, I am sure you would be a good raid tank if you had the gear, but you don't. The reason why I say your good is because you seem to know what your doing in a group setting the times I've grouped with you.

However, when I hear Cronicus say, "C'mon Fabled, your better than this!" in vent when your members are pulling encounters and whiping the raid because they aren't aware of what is around them then theres a problem, and I have seen it many times before. Your guild is not focus enough during raids, simple as that.

Having Angelsguide chewed/interrupted out in mid sentence for offering a possible strategy on the second named (to save us time) when all of us in POTS realized you were using a different one then our own is unacceptable. Everyone of our members is encouraged to think on raids and offer suggestions and discuss possible strategies with encounters, not to just simply show up, act as a drone, and follow orders.

Since everyone uses ventrilo for raids in Everquest 2. Everyone knows that when you enter someone else's server volumes are all messed up. It takes a few minutes to adjust other people to make it so your ears dont bleed by the time the night is over. When I entered Fabled's vent the night of this raid we were almost instantly bombarded with extremely loud soundboards and it continued for the whole duration of the raid between encounters. I understand you guys like to have fun and laugh and have a good time on your raids but you seriously need to consider your guests when people are logging on to your server (Especially with people who are considering to make your guild their home) and maybe get some variaty besides a soundboard and joke that was more than 6 months old. I don't blame Tabrick for leaving the way he did. After having to listen to the abnoxious soundboards and being placed in a group were his abilities as a player were not taking advantage of I would have done the same thing. He is better geared and better player then both of you Zerina and Cronicus.

We were also two and a half grouping MMIS a week after the expansion with no Shaman and no OT. The highest lvl character we had on these raids was 76. Our healers consisted of 2 wardens, 1 Inq, and 1 Templar. We cleared everything leading up to Mayong. The only reason why we were doing EoF zones was simply because we did not have a full raid force and our guild LOVES to raid.

Moreover, congratulations on your guild level after killing Mayong for the first time. If fabled is raiding RoK, one of the original strong guilds on the server that has survived all this time, then why do you need 10 other people from another guild to kill Mayong? PMII, is about to fly past your guild in RoK, we'll be there standing on the steps of VP waiting for you much like we were at the entrance to CMM waiting for your guild to get organized before the raid.

Oh btw, for the record, all of the members of pots who were going to raid with fabled that night were on the steps of CMM on time fully prepared to raid and pass loot that was dropped since we were guests on their raid. We had to wait over an hour for fabled to get organized and finish their maiden's group they were running during the time they told us to show up for their raid.

When we raided with PMII the very next day. It was seriously night and day. They setup a system for use to roll on loot if we wanted which we passed on unless it was defaulted. We combined strategies and offered suggestions that were considered and even acted on in raid encounters. They were extremely happy to see use filling in their missing spots on their raid and were very thankful for having us. All of their members were focused and knew how to play their classes very well. Their healers were top notch and even their backup healers were very good when people had to take off for the night. If it wasn't for a few formalities we all would have accepted invitations to their guild at the end of that raid.

Call me a fucktard, or a person who doesn't know what they are talking about. But seriously, its been said multiple times in this thread and they are all facts. The person that started this thread hit everything dead on. I was going to let this raid drop also since I do respect a couple of your members. But please, don't flame someone was still putting your dps to shame even when he had multiple spell effects on him and often dying because your group 2 healers were out of power the later half of the raid.

Have a nice day!

Gash

We just figured that out last raid...true story.

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Daladir

Our tank that LDd, not sure what the problem was there, I don't have first hand knowledge on that item, so eh. LDs happen.

But I can speak for the healing. I will admit to not knowing who was/wasn't a Fabled healer in that raid. But see my previous post. It wasn't the best effort from non-Paradox healers. Again, I point out that you, yourself, Zer called for cures, and we responded.

As far as Alacrity and slow casting healers. Umm...I'm a templar, and I never personally received the benefit from the spell during that raid, and I still fucntioned in my role as MT templar AND managed to heal most of G4 (ask the brawler and others down there that got a ton of healing love), and I managed to cured you as well. Not sure why Alacrity would be a factor for others.

Aphelion having Alacrity, sure than can make up for some of his numbers, but what about Tanyth who was second on parse, and didn't get Alacrity? Again, it's a tool, and will not make up for some of the dps numbers posted ZW for the top 3-4 dps'ers (which were Paradox ppl).

I can understand those with less raid experience may perform less than ideally. We all had to learn at some point.

I can say, (if this point isn't over looked) that some of the Fabled members performed admirably. Zer and Cron come to mind (and the warden in the MT grp sorry can't remember name), but it's being overshadowed by the pillow fight (can hardly call this a flame fest).

I can appreciate your zeal for defending yer guildmates, I truly can, as I would do the same. But when we 2.5 grp MMIS, and clear everything but the last two nameds (at an average lvl of 75) I would think that would say something for skill level. (Just a note, we ran outta time, or we woulda finished the last 2, hadn't gone since that 2.5 grp because some members have other things in their lives besides the game atm)...

Eh, it seem both sides didn't mesh well...(understatement of the year)...but to call folks out and misrepresent the information availlable is rather assanine.

Daladir

Aph!

Hey Zerina, one I never got alacrity and two the healers were fucking useless even with it. Also, I seem to recall the original terms of this whole little adventure being 12 Paradox and 12 Fabled and then you fabled folks said no your main tank can't come. How would you react if you were told you wouldnt be allowed to main tank....







oh. wait. you don't.

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Cronicus

Wow Aph, got anything better to do than sit and refresh this page every 5 mins to post. Destroying the other dps? Fuck my tank was 3rd zonewide. Your dps cant even beat my fucking tank, yeah..your uber.

What I'm amazed at is your leaders let you speak for the guild, and show just how retarded you really are. We where nice enough to let you tag along, get some loot, and updates. There was no need to come to the forums and sling your 2cm cock in the air like some retarded kid.

How about you guys having a giant dildo in your ass and not having fun. Sure we goof off in vent so? When it comes time to get to work we do, or will did. Its a game get over it.

I too love how at the beginning of the raid when we said we where going to move a conj down in case we needed to call someone down you guys said "no one from our guild is leaving were here to the end, thats how we roll". Then after the 1st named your tank bails. Sorry he just couldn't hang with the leetness that is cron and had to go all emo and cut himself in the corner. I understand. That shows great integrity from your guild. Whaaa I cant tank /quit.

We'll see you as well as pm2 in RoK next xpac have fun.

Orochan

LOL

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Aph!

Cronicus your mage group was SHIT, and tanyth was in a WORSE group than myself, I think 3 fighters with zilch for useful dps buffs, and she still beat the crap out of most of your dps.





and no i really don't have anything better to do, i'm sitting here looking over Imzok encounters in act

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Feebs

I'm better than aphelion

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