How NOT to Recruit in EQ2 - a special from Mortimor

Mortimor · 01-14-2008, 05:41 AM

OK, Jan 9, 2008, I found out that my guild would not be lasting much longer, due to it falling apart, after 3 guild leaders in 3 days...so I decided to post in "Hey I'm available for move" flames section.
So my day sucked from tells from everywhere on about all servers asking me to come. I told a majority of them thanx, and minded my manners, and all that jazz, but one member on the Oasis server hit me the wrong way. You have to read down towards the bottom of the tells, but you will get my drift - if not I'm BOLDING IT...btw I'm an 80 coercer...and posted that I was an 80 coercer looking to move - remember that

POST AS FOLLOWS FROM LOGS: (would have cleaned it up - but you can figure it out)

(1199928188)[Wed Jan 09 20:23:08 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "heya. you got a moment?"
(1199928302)[Wed Jan 09 20:25:02 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "sure"
(1199928338)[Wed Jan 09 20:25:38 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "cool, had a few questions regarding your app if you are still looking for a guild"
(1199928350)[Wed Jan 09 20:25:50 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "on flames that is"
(1199928350)[Wed Jan 09 20:25:50 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "still fielding guilds"

(1199928353)[Wed Jan 09 20:25:53 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "yep"

(1199928367)[Wed Jan 09 20:26:07 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "what type of guild are you looking for atm? and mainly why leave your current"
(1199928385)[Wed Jan 09 20:26:25 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "current is folding - looking for T8 raid guild"

(1199928397)[Wed Jan 09 20:26:37 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "seems a lot are folding recently"
(1199928402)[Wed Jan 09 20:26:42 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "yep"
(1199928404)[Wed Jan 09 20:26:44 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "you said play time isnt an issue?"
(1199928409)[Wed Jan 09 20:26:49 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "ppl quitting or just burnout"
(1199928419)[Wed Jan 09 20:26:59 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "nop - available am/pm and call list"
(1199928438)[Wed Jan 09 20:27:18 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "how many days a week were you looking for? honestly it can be cleared in 3 max of 4"
(1199928451)[Wed Jan 09 20:27:31 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "i can raid 7"
(1199928454)[Wed Jan 09 20:27:34 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "and willing"
(1199928475)[Wed Jan 09 20:27:55 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "do you "require" that much is what im getting at. as in would 4 days a week be good for you, sun, mon, wed, thur"
(1199928501)[Wed Jan 09 20:28:21 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "very possible - keeping myself open to all ideas"
(1199928530)[Wed Jan 09 20:28:50 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "ok, next question and this is more based on what guild would prefer to have atm. would you adverse to betraying to illy?"
(1199928554)[Wed Jan 09 20:29:14 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "if someone A3'd me back out - I am A3 now on all spells or better"
(1199928576)[Wed Jan 09 20:29:36 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "that might be an option upon acceptance. im sure i can get that done"
(1199928584)[Wed Jan 09 20:29:44 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "ok "
(1199928591)[Wed Jan 09 20:29:51 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "what kind of raid experience you have right now?"
(1199928599)[Wed Jan 09 20:29:59 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "T7 cleared "
(1199928604)[Wed Jan 09 20:30:04 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "nothing in T8"
(1199928622)[Wed Jan 09 20:30:22 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "what types of guilds? avatar killing capable?"
(1199928631)[Wed Jan 09 20:30:31 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "that you have been in"
(1199928657)[Wed Jan 09 20:30:57 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "been in avatar raiding guild, killed flame on last server and many many contesteds"
(1199928716)[Wed Jan 09 20:31:56 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "next question. if you joined this guild, what could you bring to the table? I want to know what we can expect as far as you "the person""
(1199928746)[Wed Jan 09 20:32:26 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "i'm very laid back outside of raids, in raids I am full business"
(1199928761)[Wed Jan 09 20:32:41 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "I only guild group - cuz I don't like the idea of letting loot out of guild"
(1199928792)[Wed Jan 09 20:33:12 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "helping you out in what way?"
(1199928815)[Wed Jan 09 20:33:35 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "finish the BIG quests done - ie sod, Pris1, so on so forth - epic weapon"
(1199928841)[Wed Jan 09 20:34:01 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "whats you avg dps atm and in what grp?"
(1199928852)[Wed Jan 09 20:34:12 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "i know you posted it but prefer to talk about it in game"
(1199928863)[Wed Jan 09 20:34:23 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "only MT and running 2.2-2.5 in EoF raids now"
(1199928875)[Wed Jan 09 20:34:35 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "what is raid dps?"
(1199928890)[Wed Jan 09 20:34:50 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "preferably =p"
(1199928903)[Wed Jan 09 20:35:03 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "last one was FTH and raid was 18k zw"
(1199928929)[Wed Jan 09 20:35:29 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "so you do about 10% zw dps for your current guild?"
(1199928961)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:01 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "aye"
(1199928965)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:05 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "sheesh"
(1199928977)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:17 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "not good?"
(1199929005)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:45 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "we currently avg 45-50k dps or more depending on raid makeup and such and which mobs we fighting"
(1199929006)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:46 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "as far as my dps is?"
(1199929011)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:51 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "your is fine"
(1199929015)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:55 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "raids is way low"
(1199929015)[Wed Jan 09 20:36:55 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "oh - ok"
(1199929038)[Wed Jan 09 20:37:18 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "i hear ya"
(1199929046)[Wed Jan 09 20:37:26 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "but then again, it says what kind of player you are"
(1199929054)[Wed Jan 09 20:37:34 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "either you put out 100% of the time or you dont"
(1199929096)[Wed Jan 09 20:38:16 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "i give 110% all time...no slackin here - always tryin to beat my last parse"
(1199929104)[Wed Jan 09 20:38:24 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "ok, what would expect FROM a raid guild?"
(1199929110)[Wed Jan 09 20:38:30 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "i like that attitude =)"
(1199929117)[Wed Jan 09 20:38:37 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "GL toppin the parse here though lol"
(1199929130)[Wed Jan 09 20:38:50 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "consistancey with how they treat players - send out loot - and how they treat me individually"
(1199929134)[Wed Jan 09 20:38:54 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "lol"
(1199929160)[Wed Jan 09 20:39:20 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "we do use DKP loot, however, it tends to even out pretty fast"
(1199929177)[Wed Jan 09 20:39:37 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "oh meant to ask - what's name of your guild...that's a good one"
(1199929193)[Wed Jan 09 20:39:53 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "dirty dozen- pst guild currently #2 on server"
(1199929201)[Wed Jan 09 20:40:01 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "nice"
(1199929221)[Wed Jan 09 20:40:21 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "the only thing setting us behind #1 (paradigm) atm is the fact we raid 4 days a week and took 2 weeks off for x-mas"
(1199929232)[Wed Jan 09 20:40:32 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "but time for time we are right where they are really"
(1199929247)[Wed Jan 09 20:40:47 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "nice"
(1199929248)[Wed Jan 09 20:40:48 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "silverwing should drop tonight"
(1199929257)[Wed Jan 09 20:40:57 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "and if he does, prob phara as well"
(1199929283)[Wed Jan 09 20:41:23 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "we are not as big into contesteds as major top end guilds but if we can get the crew on for off nights we do"
(1199929291)[Wed Jan 09 20:41:31 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "otherwise we are kind of limited to our 4 raid nights"
(1199929293)[Wed Jan 09 20:41:33 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "that's cool"
(1199929299)[Wed Jan 09 20:41:39 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "tuesday we can usually field a force as well"
(1199929316)[Wed Jan 09 20:41:56 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "i like d12 because it is laid back but we have good players"
(1199929329)[Wed Jan 09 20:42:09 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "very solid tank crew"
(1199929345)[Wed Jan 09 20:42:25 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells Mortimor, "marz holds agro against people doing 5K+ parses"
(1199929359)[Wed Jan 09 20:42:39 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells Mortimor, "udie (an sk) can do 3k+ parses and is an amazing OT"
(1199929383)[Wed Jan 09 20:43:03 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "we are by no means perfect, but i dont think anyone is"
(1199929391)[Wed Jan 09 20:43:11 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "very true"
(1199929422)[Wed Jan 09 20:43:42 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "i can tell you this, if you decided on d12, we would prob almost certainly prefer you to betray"
(1199929431)[Wed Jan 09 20:43:51 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "coercer in rok really is pointless tbh"
(1199929450)[Wed Jan 09 20:44:10 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "no need for MT hate gain"
(1199929460)[Wed Jan 09 20:44:20 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "and dps and buffs are better from an illy"
(1199929494)[Wed Jan 09 20:44:54 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "getting you full ad3, i can prob swing. i cannot promise it, but i can prob make it happen"

(1199929561)[Wed Jan 09 20:46:01 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "normal raid time goes from 7pst till 12 pst or earlier if we finish before that"
(1199929756)[Wed Jan 09 20:49:16 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "you there?"
(1199929883)[Wed Jan 09 20:51:23 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "sorry had to afk real quick"
(1199929887)[Wed Jan 09 20:51:27 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "np"
(1199929915)[Wed Jan 09 20:51:55 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "your profile doenst show on eq2players btw =/"
(1199929919)[Wed Jan 09 20:51:59 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "but from sounds of it you are looking for an illusy - so I am going to have to pass - but thanx for tellin me my class is worthless - lol"
(1199929925)[Wed Jan 09 20:52:05 2008] Added ignore: Oasis.Scoundril

:37: ARE YOU KIDDING ME - WHERE IN THE WORLD DID I SAY I WOULD BECOME AN ILLUSIONIST ON TRANSFER - IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN ILLUSIONIST - FIND A GD ILLUSY!!!! AND DON'T PROMISE TO GET ME A3'D AND THEN SAY - F'IN MAYBE

FLAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :36:

OH YEAH POSTING THIS IN COERCER CHANNEL TOO!!!!!

Orochan · 01-14-2008, 06:52 AM

I dun see it as a problem, if your willing to server transfer, you should be willing to betray if asked. /shrug.

And he never said your class was worthless fyi, I think you prolly just took it the wrong way.

Andrew · 01-14-2008, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orochan

And he never said your class was worthless fyi, I think you prolly just took it the wrong way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimor

Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "coercer in rok really is pointless tbh"

ah yes, big distinction there between pointless and worthless.

Phrozen · 01-14-2008, 08:18 AM

No way is a Coercer "pointless" or "worthless".

Mirdo · 01-14-2008, 08:33 AM

Isn't this where you give the inpression you would be willing to betray?

(1199928530)[Wed Jan 09 20

50 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "ok, next question and this is more based on what guild would prefer to have atm. would you adverse to betraying to illy?"
(1199928554)[Wed Jan 09 20

14 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "if someone A3'd me back out - I am A3 now on all spells or better"
(1199928576)[Wed Jan 09 20

36 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "that might be an option upon acceptance. im sure i can get that done"
(1199928584)[Wed Jan 09 20

44 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "ok "

Given that betraying looked like no issue whatsoever to you, I'm not sure what's got you posting this in 'your guild sucks'. Looks like a classic flames backfire incoming to me....

Kadoer · 01-14-2008, 08:47 AM

lets see. Coercer in a non t8 guild looking for a t8 guild, gets offered a top spot in top guild on oasis, just has to betray... Hmmmm if I betray to a pally can i join?

Pheemo · 01-14-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimor

ARE YOU KIDDING ME - WHERE IN THE WORLD DID I SAY I WOULD BECOME AN ILLUSIONIST ON TRANSFER

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimor

(1199928530)[Wed Jan 09 20

50 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "ok, next question and this is more based on what guild would prefer to have atm. would you adverse to betraying to illy?"
(1199928554)[Wed Jan 09 20

14 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "if someone A3'd me back out - I am A3 now on all spells or better"
(1199928576)[Wed Jan 09 20

36 2008] \aPC -1 Oasis.Scoundril:Oasis.Scoundril\/a tells you, "that might be an option upon acceptance. im sure i can get that done"
(1199928584)[Wed Jan 09 20

44 2008] You tell Oasis.Scoundril, "ok "

Lay off the caps lock and bold font there, bud, and read what you wrote. If you have a problem with them asking you to betray, don't agree to betraying ahead of time!

Rinion · 01-14-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phrozen

No way is a Coercer "pointless" or "worthless".

Does anyone else smell denial?

no your right! mana ward or w/e kicks ass for VS! I guess...

Of course you could just mana shroud the tank when he gets to low and fill his power back up to 50-55%...

Phrozen · 01-14-2008, 11:02 AM

You keep thinking they are Pointless/Worthless if it makes you feel better

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Henladar Bloodheart · 01-14-2008, 11:41 AM

Get the fuck over it. I've been asked to betray a few times.... I sure as hell didn't freak out... and I sure as hell didn't ignore them like a little bitch.

Illusionist is just a better class.