Rinion

so... The Cult of Bunny Pie?

Can't merge with an alt guild! CoP's goal is to be number 1 Old Tier 1-4 Raiders on Server!

Beware level 20 to 40 epic mobs! I am coming for you!!!

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Goth

First of All, this post might have been taken the wrong way. I have yes, have had some major RL issues going on in my life, and yes my wife and I are having issues as well which she inadvertently brought in to Spirit Callers. This post was not meant to be a personal attack against anyone person just me venting about how I felt I was treated by a few members in the guild.

I do not know where people are getting the idea that I have even spoke to MOC since my dismissal, because I know for FACT i have not spoken to anyone from MOC since leaving other than a few names which I will not mention, and it was friendly chat nothing more.

I do NOT want people to think ill of me over this needless drama, MOC was my family I loved them , and felt loevd in return for a long time, and I probably stressed a few people out in the guild with my RL problems which they agreed to listen to.

I haev many issues in my RL right now and that is seeming to be the overall problem here. The Entire guild of MOC for the most part is great, they are friendly and professional. However the reason I left, was because ROzalia and I butted heads over an argument where I stated an opinion, I dont like it when my opinion is ripped into and hearing someone tell that person that my opinion is not valid and to not lsiten to me.

I have played the game since release, and have much insight to offer many people, my opinion is valid, just as the next person. That is why I left. It hurt me to do so, I loved MOC felt like a family and I miss them at times.

I just ask that people not take this post as seriously as they are, it was me venting plain and simple, I got mad, and wanted to vent my furstrations, though it was probably not the most professional or idealistic way of doing things it is what I did, and I regret it now seeing that I have hurt people.

I did not wish to hurt anyone, Abeci (mom) I said some things that were harsh on this post about you, but I think your a great and wondeful woman, but one thing I could suggest to you is try to involve yourself more with others in the guild as far as playing.

Rozalia, I feel you hurt me the most, and I have most likely hurt you for that i am sorry, but that opinion you shot down took away my voice, something that I have issues with, and dont tolerate, whether it was your intention or not, that is how I felt.

To all of MOC my sincerest appologies you are a nice guild, however your guild leader offended me and I retaliated in a rather unprofessional way and for that reason alone this drama was created.

I want to put this all behind us, you haev your life, I have mine and I do miss most of you but rozalia intentionally or not you took my voice away, and for that you upset me, which I took to far.

I HAVE NOT repeate HAVE NOT sent tells to anyone in MOC slandering the name of MOC, in anger in a group once or twice I have said bad things which was wrong of me.

However, that said what was done betwween me and Roz should not be aired as a "whole" it should be left between me and roz and for that I am sorry.

I will have ill feelings towards roz because I feel my integrity was compromised with her, she is selfish, but that is her, everyoen has their flaws. I have my flaws too, i talk to much, I involve myself in my guild way to much at times, and i am working on that.

But to conclude this thread, and end this shit I have started i will say this, I play the game to have fun, but sometiems take personal things a bit to far, MOC is a guild that caters to the family atmosphere and do it well, however just as in any family, Family has issues and this is one of said issues.

I dont want anyone to be upset with me any longer, nor do I want this crap to go on anymore. Leave me alone and I shall leave you alone as well, though remaining friends would be something I would strive for. I dont hold grudges, and i want this to end now if you dont want to remain friends I understand but please NEVER again accuse me of mistreating my wife, I love her dearly and she knows that and if you got any inclination or idea otherwise im sorry we are in my RL struggles together, and its difficult.

Finally a disclaimer, my views about this topic are NOT shared with my current guild and should not be tied in with them, they accpeted me on a trial basis and I hope great things happen. As for this post , reply all you wish, flame me if you will but understand I did not intend to cause ill feelings towards an entire guild and I should have never posted. I was upset, and took things to far. Thank you and have fun in Norrath.

vdain

I want to apologize for any outsiders that are reading this. I apologize that you may be given the wrong impressions of MOC and cause you to have concern and ill feelings toward MOC or any of its members. I also want to personally apologize to everybody that you have to bear witness to this ugly incident that has been caused by one disgruntled former member. MOC's philosophy is, and always will be, NO-DRAMA. When drama occurs we make every attempt to correct the situation but unfortunately, not everybody is so willing to work with their family. With a saddened heart, the leadership has reluctantly banished this poster from the guild in order to preserve this 'No drama" policy. I invite you to contact me in-game and I will be happy to discuss the guild and it's members at length. I also invite you to join our guild and witness first hand the type of guild we are and how our members interact with each other and treat each other. As my name was specifically mentioned, I felt compelled to post a public reply and set the record straight on a few facts. I want to emphasize that this is not bashing for bashing sakes or intended solely to impugn anyone's honor. It is simply to fill in the facts that the original poster decided to leave out and set the record straight.

First, MOC is a family guild and we take the meaning to a new level. Several of us know each other personally; we talk outside of the game and share our lives with each other. Several members fly all over the country and stay with each other and celebrate holidays with one another. We care about the individual...not the toon. MOC is comprised of all skill level of players as well as people from all different age, race and ethnic groups. We welcome ALL those that wish to be apart of this family. MOC raids a couple times a week for fun and fellowship. We get into vent and we laugh and enjoy each others company while we slay beasts and take the loot. We welcome all level appropriate characters to raid with us, regardless of class or experience level of player. We try very hard to raid different tiers to give people the best opportunity to grow and enjoy our company while remaining focused on what is best for the guild. However, a raid must have some organization and discipline or people do not enjoy themselves. This is our philosophy and HOW we like to raid. Raiding is not mandatory and is never demanded of our people. It is important to the raid leaders that everybody is given a fair chance to participate and they ensure that it works as best it can with whom show up. Anybody who has lead a raid knows first hand that this is no easy task.

Second, the original poster of this flame was welcomed into MOC like any other person. I personally took it upon myself to get to know him, make him and his family feel welcome and to do whatever I could to integrate him into the family. I even visited his home shortly after the birth of his child and delivered gifts and warm wishes that the entire guild donated and expressed to him. We included him in all activities we could, we helped both of them grow and enjoy the game and provide a warm, loving home for them. Several cases of drama were created by both of these players which ended in one or both of them disbanding WILLFULLY from the family only to have them return to us asking to be let back in and apologizing for their behavior. This happened on 3 different occasions. The last time he left voluntarily, the leadership facilitated the removal of his alts and resolved then that they were no longer welcome. Over the next several weeks, many of our members brought rumors and complaints to us about the poster contacting them and talking about the guild and making some seriously inappropriate comments about the guild and the leader.

Thirdly, The leadership of this guild, including Rozalia, are completely and 100% dedicated to the betterment of this guild and it's members both in and out of game. I have witnessed first-hand all of their dedication and commitment to making this guild a family environment including any in-game and out-of-game situation that may arise.

Finally, I personally challenge any and all who read this post to contact one of us and join us to see for yourself what is the truth. Decide for yourself.

-Vdain Malygant

ciginu

Ok goth know who you are now. You think i only suck up to the guildleader of the guild im in? You want to air it out bro?
So you make another post claiming this crap. Well deathunter had enough of your crap on way too many raids to count. Running into rooms wiping raids . You sir are an idiot. You claim to play at a high level but yet u wipe us and then told us all what we were doing wrong. If im not mistaken you had many run ins with death just like you did with roz. What happens is when your whiny ass dosent get the treatment that your royal dumbass thinks you need. You get mouthy, spout off, get ass slapped down , and go off trying to flame people. Frankly u call it brownnosing, u can call it what u want. But coming from you it means squat. Want me tell everyone why u were booted from crimson fire? You sold loot assinged to you on a raid.
You are greedy self centered player and MOC is better without you.
Yiu are a drama queen. Go polish with your crown. It seems to me i have been a guild leader , been officer , helped people, I will put my record against yours any day cupcake. You even attacked people that by your own admission you care about . For fucks sake they brought you a gift when your baby was born. You attacked a woman that never to my knowledge has said a bad word about you.

You say it all just you blowing off steam. Well this exactly whats get you in these messes. Ill quote myself again. STFU, GROW SOME BALLS. AND GO PLAY YOUR GAME. but dont come in here, flame people. Im not going allow you to spout your bullshit. and say oh it just me saying shyt. Fuck you goth show for once you are man and control yourself . YOU act and sound like a 3 year old. Play like one too.

(grabs a tissue and wipes the shit of his nose)
there all clean goth which is more then i say for you

(i remember roz on saying in chat for everyone to let it drop goth. to leave you be. there we have just another time you distorting the events to save your bullshit ass)

Goth

Why Cant you leave this alone, i appoligized Im sorry i fucked up better? Im the looser, Im the idiot, and I caused drama is that what you want to hear then so be it. My feelings were hurt and i acted innapropriately and like i said I am fucking sorry!. Ciginu for your information to get your act straight I did NOT get kicked from Crimson Fire I left because Deathhunter is an Asshole and a Tyrant who loots everything for his alts. I do not, and never have sold anything on broker that I have won a raid. I am a fair player,a nd would not do that to my guild.

You guys can back up roz all you want, you can back MOC all you want its great, i respect that shows unity in a guild. But for fucksakes I have appoligized DROP IT, I have been hurt also not just precious Roz and others. I have fucking feelings to, whether you want to believe it or not Roz did not show me the respect that some of the others did, and I was told by someone not naming names that she did not like me and if she could kick me she would just for NOT LIKING ME. Whatever, its done with, leave it a lone, let me be, and I will do the same. You continue to open old wounds and this shit will never pass.

I have lost friends over this shit, my name has been slandered for this shit, how much more am I going to have to sufer for a few things that I didnt control my feelings on? I ask you to please just leave it be because i am no longer worrying with it.

SpazyYazy

Greetings to my fellow Norrathians!

I am Yazymne, the founder of The Spirit Callers of the Nameless, EQ1, and one of the 5 leaders of The Spirit Callers of Kithcore! First, allow me to apologize for the length of this post. I love to hear myself talk!!

Spirit Callers has recently grown by leaps and bounds over the past few months. With such rapid growth, invariably come growing pangs (isn’t that a great word?!?). Veteran members are trying to deal with the influx of new members while new members are vying for position or just trying to find their place in the guild. Undoubtedly, in such a process some feathers will get ruffled; not to mention the increased chances for conflict in an increasingly large group.

Tensions have been running high and it has been the effort of the guild leadership to try and handle these issues as they arise. One of our guilds first and foremost rules is ‘NO DRAMA’. People are explained this in our general initiation meetings with new members, at which time we state that if people are caught creating drama that they will be ask to leave the guild. (that is a nice way of saying I will boot them first and ask questions later!)

Of course with every story there are multiple sides. Our leaders try to hear both sides and smooth them out if possible. If over time one or more of the members become more and more the center of these misunderstanding, it is sometimes the hard decision of the guild leadership that a person or persons might have to be let go for the greater good of the guild.

This of course is not done out of spite, unless you count that one time…but that’s neither here nor there! Everyone should be given the chance to fit in, but not everyone will fit in with every group of people. Even after multiple attempts at private reprimands to individuals, some still do not take the ‘no drama’ policy to heart (or the hint that they are about to be booted!) In these cases we tend to recommend that these people might find their needs better met in another group. It doesn’t make the person bad in anyway, just not a good fit with the Spirit Callers and our members.

For those who are debating about whether or not MoC is a good guild or its leaders are at fault for anything that may or may not have happened over the past weeks with regards to the initial post made in this thread: My opinion is (and it is my opinion only) that I have always found MoC and its leaders to be kind, understanding, and helpful. When Spirit Callers hit a rough spot in the past, MoC offered its hand of friendship to us, and we will not forget that. It is unfortunate that the above listed circumstances lead to some bad blood, but it is not because of any one person or event. Instead, it is more about the ever changing tides of the game, the influx of new members, and the ability for each person to find his or her own way in a large community.

Finally, I wish to say to anyone who leads a guild, has ever lead a guild in the past, or is planning on leading a guild in the future: It is never an easy job, and can be very thankless at times. When things go well, Guild Leaders shine. When things go poorly, often times, it is the leadership that bares the responsibility whether it is perceived or a reality. The task and burden of taking on guild leadership is not for the faint of heart. I applaud anyone who does this job and give him or her the credit for trying to create a place where people can belong.

To Dark (and others who may feel wronged), the Spirit Callers do not wish you or your wife any ill will. I have come to understand that you have found another guild, and we wish you all the best of luck, and it is my hope that the friendships you did make while in the guild will continue, and we would NEVER restrict our members from interacting and raiding with other friends outside of the guild. Everquest II is a very big world filled with many encounters, some not so pleasant at times, but it is the good encounters that stick with us and make this wonderful game what it is.

To the members of MoC and Spirit Callers…I think I can safely say we are all ready to put this behind us and move on. Its been a long couple of weeks, but I think we are all finally out of the storm and heading for calmer seas and happy sailing! Now, lets go kill shit! RARR!

Respectfully,
Yazymne

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Sassybritches

Jesus, you people like to see your own typing!

I heard Roz is a cybering homewrecking whore....

MABLE! Frilly Pink Bunnies foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! =)

Kerith

God, I'm glad I'm not on Kithicor. Your drama is almost as lame as your guild names.

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FireCat1375

Man I hate to be the one to say this Goth, but you DID post it on the most public flaming site there is. You left yourself open, and people are flaming you right back.

If the day should ever come where I massively fuck up and I appear as someone's flame, I'll gladly take my licks, defend myself if need be, and move on. That's how things work here.

Besides, look on the bright side. At least you'e not Yuyoy. ^^

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Goth

Yah thank god for that.. everyone hates him. Well I appreciate that yaz, I have no ill thoughts of SC either, and I understand why you did what you did, and rest assured my wife has been dealt with and hopefully she will never do what she did again.

And kerriss I hope you are enjoying vanguard I personally miss you and your husband and hope one day you can come back.