Malacai

I still don't see the correlation with what you say above and your earlier statement, that Strike is somehow enabling people (assuming you mean people outside Strike) by feeding them loot as your original post implies. Maybe I missed something. /shrug

Well, I'm genuinely glad if your post provided you the contacts and/or feedback you were looking for. But I'm still confused how my guild ended up in your laundry list of "Your Guild Sucks" for the reasons you stated. I can't speak for any of the other guilds you've listed or your experiences with them, but I know my guild and the people in it quite well and can't see the Strike connection that you have suggested. Specific examples would help a great deal to clarify and support your conclusions about Strike. In any case, I hope you find what makes you happy in-game and out.

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Lilath

What? No post for me Xeather??

I'm not loved.....

Gedren

Jaraxx your incorrect.

THATS A HUGE BITCH.

Xeather its mighty big of you to post such a flame and then have the nutz to post a picture of yourself. i applaude you. However fat girls are not meant to be taken seriously only to be laughed at for the joy of on lookers.

Your picture invalidates any of your accusations.

However your use of color and grammar was pretty good so its a 4/10 flame.

Say hi to jared for me.

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Rayhn

I really see some point to the thread as to stir up guilds and get them thinking....but honestly I dont see what good its done.

I dont see where bashing these guilds came into play. I know demolition was a spin off guild from another raiding guild and is left with a rebuilding and gearing stage.

Black Mark has a lot of talented players along with a lot of players that have major improving to do but their only issue that I know of is lack of attendance. decent roster but having issues with people loggin in for raids big shock, not really. Rok killed a lot of player base.

Omfg Strike raiding with other guilds WTF giving out leet strats and shit. I just lmao at that. Yes we raid with other guilds on off nights doing T7 content. Big woop we like to raid and some of these people are our friends.

Here's a thought, though as malicious as you tried to be, how many of the rest of this server has ask a strike member for class advice and now to improve themselves? I bet there's a lot and guess what everyone in this guild has been more than willing to talk to the person and help them. So if thats what your saying about Strike, cool.

We have always been behind on progression but last I knew we are doing good server wise to having 3 guilds on or through t2 and probly 3 others that are on t2 and almost done with it but dont let people know.
KOTO, FRED, DP for example dont say much and normally have to be bugged to let us know their progression.

Ohh I left out True Blood who last I knew is doing very well even though they do have that stigma of Defiance. I know a lot of people hold that shit against them but pfft IMO let it drop and move on its a fucking game not RL. I mean seriously you do that shit in RL you probly wont have any friends.

My only final note is that Thyme, Oakleaf and now you woooottttt!~~~~!!! although I figured you'd be like a troll zerker or something seeing we already had one troub drama slut.

Xeather

I noticed after coming back to LDL that Strike had a very helpful and generous attitude toward the members of other guilds. I thought this was great, and I wish more servers were like this.

It shows how much the server appreciates Strike, too. I remember one day recently that Stonestrong needed a raid to help with something. Several guilds joined in to help (I remember OOBM and Unsung and a few others as well). I was there too.

Also the fact that the way Strike is treated in world chat (freindly without resentment) also speaks worlds of good things.

This is great and I wish more high-end raiding guilds had such a good attitude toward their server community.

However, I noticed on more than one occasion, either in world chat or guild chats a wide range of comments that frustrated me such as: "I know we'll never clear T8, so hopefully Strike will let me go with them to..."

Again that's really not a big deal. So that's not my point either.

What brought me to post about Strike is that I think guilds like OOBM rely on you too much. They really seem to love and respect the members of Strike, this is a great thing, but it crosses over into their inability to learn how to lead and run a raiding guild well.

I think this is why OOBM is stuck. They have some members caught up in politicing with Strike, and some members trying to be independent and making their own way. Neither is wrong. I'm not saying that, but Strike does play a role. And while I believe there is much good coming from it, my comment about enabling was a point of frustration because I noticed a handfull of raiders on LDL who are so busy looking up to you that they don't seem to take any interest in improving.

There is a fine line between enabling and helping. Personally, I think Strike has crossed that line.

Xea

Xeather

I just think your reading comprehension is really poor, and I don't think you have a good memory for what you have written.

My guess is that you are a heavy drug user either now, or during most of your adolesence. You also write as if there were more than one person in your head.

Also by posting the way you post, you do most of my work for me.

Xeather

MrChickn

lmao, thanks for the read. 5 stars.

BTW Troubs should be able to keep jesters/precision up all the time, with out a HUGE sacrifice to thier DPS. I used to box a troub/dirge and keep it jesters/PoTM/CoB up and still parse higher than 400 on each toon lol. learn2play?

Melodias

I see you did not read my earlier posts. I will repeat. If I maintained a 400 DPS my guild would have kicked me a long time ago. Xeather was downright wrong in that statement.

Lilath

I'm sorry.... my reading comprehension is very p00r.

Kane u plese xplain wat the fuk that hole post ment?

Xeather

Well all, I think I am done with the thread. I blew my wad on the first post and I am not sure that there is much more to say.

I stand by my thoughts, but I agree with Melodias and others that the way I handled things was highly inappropriate. There was a time when I couldn't understand why people communicated the way I did in my OP. At least now I understand it a little better, why people come here and bitch like they do.

Anyway, I think that was the only thing left for me to say here on this matter, that I'm sorry I handled my thoughts in such a derogatory and malicious and public way.

I also want to be clear that I do not think my appology in any way makes what I did ok. It's not why I offer it. A lot of people have commented on the uselessness of my post. It cleared my head, but that wasn't worth being a bitch to so many people.

Xea