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Old 01-14-2007, 02:06 PM  
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Who's bitching about who Gaige? Let's see Grimwell puts on the forums This WW1st Xelus replies with a thought about timing. Second Dawn comes here and starts this thread.

And who is FOH? J/k.
My entire point is FoH has been guild copied into every beta since launch, they've raid tested every beta since launch and no one ever bitches about them.

Why?

Because they don't beat Disso to mobs. That's why. At least I assume that's why, but who knows.

As for Grimwell annoucing the Wuoshi kill... he is a new CM, how do you know this isn't par for the course? No one knows how he is going to lead the community yet. Just because SD was the first guild he recognized doesn't mean they'll be the only.

That's why people give you so much shit, all these assumptions and excuses.

/shrug

Its always a post about something. First its beta info, then its less lag, then its developer intervention, then its dev favortism, etc etc. There always has to be some sort of reason like fishy play or unfair tactics if Dissolution loses. I just don't understand I guess the reasoning behind thinking the only guild that can WW1st things without them being tarnished is Dissolution.

KoS was all about NPU, now the same arguements are being shifted to SD because of their success.

I bet if they kill Pumpkin before you it'll be revealed that there is a dev actively playing in SD.

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:09 PM  
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So you're now saying that Nafiia is a liar? You're also saying that you tested the proposed mob encounter script by testing hurricanus? You hold onto that you only tested Hurricanus but different versions and you think that people won't realize those versions are what is currently being used on several encounters?

Who's calling you a cheater? Please give me the facts and point out who. Do you think perhaps that you just feel a little guilty and are assuming everyone is calling you a cheater?

I salute your ability to pull and pull and pull through what seems impossible situations to beat. On one hand a mob that charms half the raid, then after 45 seconds of lag ae's the remaining raid to death, the mob that summons adds who are epic encounters in themselves. You guys saw through all that. After all your world firsts since conception of your guild you were able to just get lucky. Three times in a row! The last one being right after a stealth nerf!

I'm just not buying it as being zero dev intervention. Does that mean I think SD is any less than Disso? Nope.

Pinski says the adds were x2 now heroic.

I would to see a picture showing them as x2 adds before or a parse showing how there hp/dps have changed to reflect there "new" self. All your doing is tossing out stealth nerf and saying SD got lucky. Yet we have Emerald Halls on Farm status now. We just seem to be getting lucky over and over again. It has nothing to do with throwing ourselves at a zone for 4 days and dropping lower and lower on the Wealthiest Guild List.

Yellow heroic add with 15 ppl dpsing it, dies in 5 seconds. The adds you accuse of being nerfed do not even come close to that.

A dev could post in here that Valor was not changed in any way AND you still would say it was. Why else? Because you are Dissolution. Your word is law.
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Old 01-14-2007, 02:11 PM  
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My entire point is FoH has been guild copied into every beta since launch, they've raid tested every beta since launch and no one ever bitches about them.

Why?

Because they don't beat Disso to mobs. That's why. At least I assume that's why, but who knows.

Show me a post about them starting shit with Dissolution...

As for Grimwell annoucing the Wuoshi kill... he is a new CM, how do you know this isn't par for the course? No one knows how he is going to lead the community yet. Just because SD was the first guild he recognized doesn't mean they'll be the only.

I wasn't knocking Grimwell's intentions. I'm only stating the sequence of events. You say people are bitching about guilds as if Disso came here starting it.

That's why people give you so much shit, all these assumptions and excuses.

/shrug

Its always a post about something. First its beta info, then its less lag, then its developer intervention, then its dev favortism, etc etc. There always has to be some sort of reason like fishy play or unfair tactics if Dissolution loses. I just don't understand I guess the reasoning behind thinking the only guild that can WW1st things without them being tarnished is Dissolution.

How is it that Dissolution lost exactly? You mean a guild that didn't beta test any of these mobs beat them shortly after a beta guild did? I don't consider that losing. Especially since nobody is even close to donig the same.

KoS was all about NPU, now the same arguements are being shifted to SD because of their success.

I bet if they kill Pumpkin before you it'll be revealed that there is a dev actively playing in SD.

Well it would get there eventually, is there a dev in SD?
Gaige you just wanna hate Disso so bad that you gotta come here and play this game on the forums. Go back to your wonderful Vanguard.

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Are you going to repeat that all day today? Just let me know ahead of time thanks.

This thread has gone many ways. Started out about a ninja nerf. Now other shit. It is pretty simple no matter what anyone does first others will always come along and discredit anything they do no matter what it is. Don't know if this makes you fill you're killing it first really when you do. The beta crap come on. Your guild didn't have anyone in beta to do anything but look at the pretty lights and aa's (sarcasm off).

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:15 PM  
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Pinski says the adds were x2 now heroic.

I would to see a picture showing them as x2 adds before or a parse showing how there hp/dps have changed to reflect there "new" self. All your doing is tossing out stealth nerf and saying SD got lucky. Yet we have Emerald Halls on Farm status now. We just seem to be getting lucky over and over again. It has nothing to do with throwing ourselves at a zone for 4 days and dropping lower and lower on the Wealthiest Guild List.

Yellow heroic add with 15 ppl dpsing it, dies in 5 seconds. The adds you accuse of being nerfed do not even come close to that.

A dev could post in here that Valor was not changed in any way AND you still would say it was. Why else? Because you are Dissolution. Your word is law.

99% of these encounters are luck. All I am saying is it is a coincidence, that's all. I think there's some stuff going on behind the scenes but on the same note I think SD is kicking ass.

A dev could post in here that valor was changed and SD was told about it to check it and I would still be impressed. My word is law? Please, you give me too much credit. My word is law just as much as you never knew about wolfsbane in beta, whether you read about it or not, you never spoke with devs! LOL.
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Gaige you just wanna hate Disso so bad that you gotta come here and play this game on the forums. Go back to your wonderful Vanguard.

P.S. Sorry about your junior-moderator club thing.
I don't hate Dissolution, I feel sorry for you guys.

As for starting shit with SD I believe Xelus did that by bringing up these accusations on the SOE boards. I believe Ishbu did that with his Wolfsbane blog. I believe Xelus did that with the accusation that EH on Najena has significantly less lag than the EH on Nektulos. I don't see SD starting anything.

As for the moderator thing thanks for your concern, but I hardly used my mod anyway.

I hope some of Disso comes to Vanguard so I'll know which server to pick. Obviously you guys will end up on the laggiest so any of the other servers will be a lot more playable, haha.

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Old 01-14-2007, 02:17 PM  
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This thread has gone many ways. Started out about a ninja nerf. Now other shit. It is pretty simple no matter what anyone does first others will always come along and discredit anything they do no matter what it is. Don't know if this makes you fill you're killing it first really when you do. The beta crap come on. Your guild didn't have anyone in beta to do anything but look at the pretty lights and aa's (sarcasm off).

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Where is the discredit? I dunno honestly I wasn't playing the game at the time. You said it yourself man, did you read the link? What's aa's and pretty lights got to do with anything?
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Someone posted a list of 14 members that were in beta.
Just one point of clarifcation on this.

To the best of my recollection, there were about 7 individual members of Disso in beta. We got in at various times - I was one of the last to receive a beta invitation, and got mine at least two weeks after testing started in EoF zones.

Rumors then started that Disso was in beta. While it is true that about 7 individual members were in beta, the rumors were wrong to the extent they suggested that the guild was beta testing EoF content. The closest I personally got to raid content in EoF was discovering the zone in to EH, zoning in, and getting owned in the inzone area.

The rumors were based on:

-Ishbu was one of the first in beta, and he started the guild "Dissolution" after he transferred in. The guild was not transferred though, that was just the guild he started in beta. He then invited several people who were not in Disso into this beta guild, so closer to the end of beta, it may have actually seemed to someone doing a /who all that there was over half a Disso beta force on line at a particular time. But the majority of those people, and over half of them, were neither from Disso nor even Nektulos.

-For whatever thrill people get from doing this, there were more "Ishbu"s in beta than Elvis impersonators. I think the real Ishbu was Ishbuxxx. Even though Ishbu had been one of the early transfers into beta, there was Ishbu, Ishbux, and even Ishbuxx on the server by the time he transferred, as I recall. Forgive me if my memory isn't perfect and I missed an x. The same thing happened with other famous or infamous Disso members - many had their names used on beta buffed or even transferred low level toons, so that someone doing quick and dirty "detective" work in EoF could have actually seen many of the Disso character names running around and acting like noobs, when in fact those weren't actual Disso characters or members.

Not trying to get involved in this conversation, just wanted to clarify that one point.

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I don't hate Dissolution, I feel sorry for you guys.

As for starting shit with SD I believe Xelus did that by bringing up these accusations on the SOE boards. I believe Ishbu did that with his Wolfsbane blog. I believe Xelus did that with the accusation that EH on Najena has significantly less lag than the EH on Nektulos. I don't see SD starting anything.

As for the moderator thing thanks for your concern, but I hardly used my mod anyway.

I hope some of Disso comes to Vanguard so I'll know which server to pick. Obviously you guys will end up on the laggiest so any of the other servers will be a lot more playable, haha.
Did you wash your anti-disso shirt yet? You smell.
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Did you wash your anti-disso shirt yet? You smell.
Gaige would want it tomorrow but somehow the lag at the post office would prevent you from sending it for 2 weeks.
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