Tater

Razieh I still hate your avatar thing, that cat makes me angry

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The Tater is retired, but this sig owns so ill keep it!

razieh

Its amazing and you know it.

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Xede

oopo its the point that he still talked to the devs....what kind of info etc is irrelevant to what i was trying to prove.

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Jakik

I do believe ishbu came to you because from your reputation you actualloy seemed to be a good playe i even thought so my self. After being in disso for a little while it was plain to see what was amends problem, players like you. Players who find it more important to post on the forums for half the raid players who cant pay attention for half a raid. I never saw you tank before from from what i hear when you did tank on your bruiser it was a very very terrible sight to see. When you played your dirge you did half the DPS Kurizobo and odashu did you never rezed anyone in any rush. You used buffs like blade chime etc when the mob is at 3% hp. You rarly had the right buffs up or even know what group you were in after having been moved there 10min prior.

Sorry gaige but if a bugged mob is going to block any progression in the zone everyone may as well quit the game.

PS: Im curious how other guilds are dealing with the rumbler now. IF you want any shot at completing the zone you dont exactly have time to clear to the mob every day untill you dont get it up.

LFG

Do you have ANY idea how much I DO NOT WANT TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THIS THREAD IN ANY WAY?

I've already asked Calthine not to post in this thread for any reason unless absolutely necessary for EXTREME rule violations, such as posting porn. Except for something like that, I am handling this thread.

I've previously stated that I will stay out of this thread unless someone FORCES me back into it, and I am left with no choice. YOU'VE JUST FORCED ME TO COME BACK INTO THIS THREAD BY CLAIMING A RULES VIOLATION. You have AGAIN put me in a no win situation, between a rock and a hard place.

I have reviewed THIS THREAD and see no rules violation by GAIGE OR ANYONE ELSE. What Gaige is doing in this THREAD is the EXACT SAME THING that MANY OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALSO DOING. This is a hardcore flame thread involving hardcore flamers.

I have done everything possible to keep the typical unrelated sideshow bullshit out of this thread. But how can you suggest that what Gaige is doing in this thread is any different from what Khalan, Kurizo, or Jakik are also doing? Not one of those people I just mentioned is spamming this thread with "lolz" and "i like pie" responses. Each has posted multiple sentence replies in almost every post they've made in this thread. Each of those replies includes facts involving a disputed matter reasonably within the scope of this thread or logically connected as a rebuttal response, and then also includes opinions based on those facts. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ALLOWED.

If Gaige OR ANYONE ELSE was posting replies in this thread about Jello Brand Pudding Pops or Barney the Purple Dinosaur, that would constitute spamming in violation of the Site Rules. If Gaige or ANYONE ELSE was chasing you or ANY OTHER PERSON AROUND THIS BOARD and doing WHAT ANY FIFTH GRADER COULD SEE was intentionally provoke a conflict with you in multiple posts, I would agree that was trolling. But how can you suggest that trolling occurs when someone combines FACTS, REASONING, AND OPINIONS in every post they made in this ONE THREAD, with each post involving matters directly related to the subject line of the thread? EXACTLY WHAT HAS GAIGE POSTED IN THIS THREAD THAT is TROLLING, is UNRELATED TO DISSOLUTION, or is not a rebuttal response to something used against him?

Please read these site guidelines, which were posted months ago, and which apply in this situation:

New supplemental posting Guidelines for Admins and users

If ANYONE has the right to claim this post had been derailed and now must be forced back on track, that would be Petgroup, since he started this thread. The Admin (me) also has the right to make calls when a post becomes retarded as a matter of common sense. As the only person on this board able and permitted to make that call in this thread now, I must strongly disagree with your claim. I see no trolling by Gaige or ANYONE ELSE in this thread.

I must once again make it clear how much I resent being brought back into this dispute. I cannot type the words to describe how much I resent being used like a tool in this thread BY ANYONE, WHETHER DISSO, GAIGE, or SD, for the purpose of arguing that someone else is violating the Site Rules and I'm not enforcing those rules equally against that person. WHEN YOU ARGUE THAT THE RULES ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED EQUALLY, COMMON SENSE SHOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU JUST FORCED ME BACK INTO THIS ARGUMENT.

I've read every post in this thread. If I felt there was a violation of the Site Rules in this thread, I would have handled that violation, unless I was asleep or working, and then I would handle it after that time. If you disagree with me now, and still believe there has been a rules violation in this thread, or you see one in the future, please PM me OR REPORT THE POST rather than make a similar claim again.

I NOW DECLARE THAT ALL CLAIMS OF RULES VIOLATIONS ARE OFF TOPIC IN THIS THREAD BY EVERYONE EXCEPT ME. IF YOU BELIEVE ANYONE HAS VIOLATED THE SITE RULES IN THIS THREAD, PLEASE REPORT THAT POST (using the triangular "hazard" icon with an exclamation point on the left side of the post window) or PM me citing the exact content you believe to be in violation of the Site Rules. To allege a violation for trolling, you must do more than just accuse someone of trolling, you must use facts and reasoning to support your claim.

Do not extend this issue further in this thread with further claims of unfair rule enforcement by me or against any person. It's your job to follow the rules, and my job to enforce them. The question of whether I'm doing my job properly is not on topic in this post.

If you truly believe I'm not fairly enforcing the rules on this site, feel free to state your claim in the LFG thread still open in the Rate-A-Retard forum. If you truly believe someone has violated the Site Rules in this thread, inform me by reporting that post or sending me a PM. But not make further claims like this one in this thread.

If I'm put in any more no win situations in this thread, where I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't, I'll have no choice but to close this thread or delete the post(s) causing the problem. I don't have full days of time to argue details.

This site doesn't revolve around any single person, guild, playstyle, or thread, and none has the right, nor will any be allowed, to completely dominate this entire site or my time.

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Gage

That is the one thing I still love about Dissolution. You can be a shitty player and go there, stay for six months, kill (at that time) every mob in the game, get all kinds of loot and plat and never once get kicked.

Its amazing. You guys are like the Salvation Army of Uber Raid Guilds.

So a note to any and all dps classes out there: Disso is currently recruiting top end dps, which as this post proves means any dps. FFS they let Quenthal in. Apply today and the other 23 players will carry your load and even though they'll tease you in vent you'll make out like a bandit regarding loot and plat - then when you get bored of their 5th grade mentality you can leave, join a guild you actually enjoy being in and then laugh at them for all the stupid shit they say.

The point Dragorn is I was approached by Ishbu, brought into Dissolution, and even though I sucked I was allowed to stay and do whatever I wanted, until I decided to leave.

That makes me look bad again how? Oh and despite all of Disso's claims of me sucking, I got recruited pretty fast after that. I must not be so bad after all. I mean even my totally shitty play for six months was accepted by Dissolution, and you guys are the best guild in the entire WORLD! /hax

Gage

I quit for a lot of reasons, the two main ones being:

1) I didn't want to be in a guild that exploits, takes shortcuts, does shit unintentionally, plays halfass or does shady shit to get ahead. I was a member of Dissolution, not Ethereal Legacy. Believe me I checked my tag a few times that night in EH to make sure.

2) I didn't want to be a hypocrit. I got tired of always ranting when we lost. I remember that night in vent when SD killed the matron everyone's mindset was immediately "THEY EXPLOITED". We started talking to people world wide finding out if they knew how SD beat it and heard all kinds of crazy exploits. Which immediately made Ishbu feel better about himself. Funny how that works.

Being the second best guild in the game is an amazing accomplishment. That's why it sucks for people like Fern and Avirodar, who are generally very softspoken and quiet, to be in a guild that tarnishes being second because they are so fucking envious of the guild that is first.

To strut around saying dumbshit anytime you lose since the guild formed is pretty fucked up. First it was NPU, then it was EL, etc etc. You guys don't just mention proven shit, like the CL MO exploit, you invent shit. Like Death Coordination. Not only do you invent, you ride that shit into the ground. You never let it go. You constantly throw shit out there so that people know even if you lose, you're still the best because of "____________".

Its just too much to handle. I feel sorry for you like I felt sorry for LT bitching about the Patriots dancing on his field. Sore losers are just sad to watch and be around. Guess what LT if your team would've played better the Patriots would've had no reason to dance. Guess what Disso if your team would've played better Grimwell would've interviewed you about Wuoshi.

So in the end I quit because I didn't want to be forced to use a mechanic I didn't agree with, nor did I want to deal with the constant fucking hypocrisy of us calling out guilds like EL for using a shady (but allowed at the time) tactic like DC while yelling the Rumbler so we could focus on the Gardener in order to be the first guild in the game on the third floor.

As for pissing you off, I could care less. Who the fuck are you? Some Rugby player from England I barely know who falls asleep on raids? Whoop ti do.

Gage

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/e...ssage.id=16404

LoL why is Stiffner aka Odashu trying to act like a nobody/newb and call out SD? Rumor has it that's the account Ishbu is using to post on the official board now though, since he has been banned 7x or whatever already.

Too bad that thread got locked, it could've been comedy gold.

Oopo

Correct me if I'm wrong Gaige but wasn't it YOU who first started saying that SD exploited Matron? Didn't the designer of the encounter tell you that he thought SD for sure exploited it and then you relayed that on to us? And I even remember saying "Hey guys, don't go posting shit about SD exploiting this until it's proven that they did." Don't remember who first started accusing them of exploiting but I know you did jump on them. Stop playing fucking innocent when you participated in so much of the shit you are complaining we do.

Gage

Nope it wasn't me. I didn't mention that Roger thought she still wasn't possible until a day or two later.

I'm talking about the ppl talking in vent bitching about them putting Matron on the rock to avoid the ae and all the other bs.