Why they suck: 1) They have what they call a DRF(dedicated raid force) that is "suppose" to find strategy's to use to kill the raid mobs in ROK. (even though they are all online) They only allow 25-30 people in the guild to join, nobody else. They then keep doing the SAME zones over and over, not to find strategy, but to loot all the gear. If they have cleared zones, why do they keep going back every week and doing the same zones? to rack up the loot. They wont allow other people to form similar grps(mainly drf is leaders and officers-go figure right?-more loot) they only allow open raids on the weekends with dkp points. And of course, many of the drf never show because why would they, they have alrdy looted the hell outa the zones. DO they share? hah-they say they need all the fabled gear and all the masters so they can climb the ladder of success to the top tier raid zones(but they keep doing the same ones over and over, and killing the same mobs, and they will be generous enough to SHARE the strategy with the peons, I mean guildies. 2) To hide the fact from other guildies that people have left the guild, you know, it shows up in the events, they erase it, so nobody knows. They don't want people to see that some guildies are unhappy and leave 3) Same thing with the guild site. You post a thread they dont like, they move it to the OFFICERS forum, so nobody can read it! 4) An officer told me that if you dont conform to their ideas, they will find a way to get rid of you. Maybe the guild should be called Eternal Nazi's. Thats just a tip of the iceberg.

you must conform or be eliminated