Malstorm

That’s all well and good lad, but how about you compensate me for my time?

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Originally Posted by Metran I am sure there was more communication that I am not aware of. I am also sure you'll put your own spin on things, as people tend to do in situations they take personally. As far as I can see it from my point of view, we did what was right for the overall health of the guild and the feedback I've gotten to date has been positive.

Groundless accusation is commonly accepted as an admittance of guilt.

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Originally Posted by Metran Once again Mals, I wish you all the best in WON. I hope you find what you're looking for in that guild, they are a more dedicated raiding guild and killing harder content than we are. If it works out for you, you'll most likely be more decked out than the CS leadership you abhore so much.

What leadership, you addmittly both burn out and fade away then come back and live in a fantasy land where you're content asking decently geared tanks to step down so you can play your tank, Yeah 3 cheers for you on that, that's a real responsible leader for you, You like to play like you have power, but in the end, no one respects you. So go play cap'n somewhere eles cabin boy, and try posting some actual facts before you attempt your thred locking method mentioned eairlier.

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Originally Posted by Malstorm you just decided to throw a load of generalized, BS in the direction of a thread YOU CAN’T LOCK!!

At least I post the full disscussion and don't leave things open ended.

Malstorm

This is my history, you make the call, on my DKP record.


Everything happens for a reason, or so logic dictates.
This wasn't a lashing out, for the means of displaying raw power, or was it?
My perception of the cause for this further is confirmed by the lack of explanation. I asked for it the night I was kicked, before, during, and after. I was told, the Leadership (IE: raid leader) thinks you should find another home.
Then wishes me well and everyone else in the guild tells me
"I don't know why, but I'm sure he has a damn good reason. I'm going to miss you bro."
To which I reply,
"Don't call me bro; Bros watch out for each other, bros don't let this kind of thing happen for no reason. You’re not my bro, or you would be looking for a better explanation right now, instead of offering empty condolences."

Now this is charted as a family guild, I’ve seen some people do some stupid things, and suffer no consequence for it and. in fact, be promoted for it. You can do better then some form letter explanation, and well wishing to explain this I hope.

I found out all I could by sending out mails to everyone in the guild Initial message to everyone:
*Names have been edited out of document*

This message was sent via any out of game mail I could find, because this was an action that affected me directly, as a person. The respondent(s) will be kept anon because it’s their choice to come forward if they so choose.

Calthine

I guess I don't understand your thinking here.

• Did you feel your time in the guild was well spent? Or did you feel the guild was wasting your playing time? (At least before you were deguilded?)
• You raided, you got the fruits of raiding, ie: loot, kills, and strats.
• You lose no personal status or really anything else when you leave a guild. Anything you've purchased as a result of status or guild levels stays with you.
• All you've really lost is a guild tag. Your reputation hasn't been smeared all over (discussed here, but not smeared, not even vaguely flamed), you haven't even lost "face".

Yeah, it sucks leaving a guild for any reason, and I'm not trying to minimalize your feelings, but I really do not understand why you feel you deserve compensation.

(This is not a flame - I'm really interestred.)

Edit: we posted about the same time. So, you feel you should be compensated for 325 DKP, which is really just "potential" loot?

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Oopo

Lol compensation. Get over it already Malstorm. It's a game.

Malstorm

You're too modest Tal, your like the MDX of friends. No one here needs to know that though. It might just be the two sets of adornments you provide, and the ones you get me within a week of a new upgrade, but I think It's a little more then that.

Talinth

I'm going to have to agree with Metran here. He's doing his best to provide you the information you seek, and you repeatedly ignore it as it doesn't come from the one person you consider a leader.

Metran is a WONDERFUL guy. I give him props for posting in a thread as inflamitory as this.

Sometimes I guess it's best to just move on.

Falco

Sweet tell Ishbu i quit and to send me monthly payments for life to PO BOX Falcogen

I never knew there was such a thing as "compensation" in a game.

On a side note if malstorm gets outta line i hope my euro brothers boot ur ass

Rampagious

I think Dissolution should compensate me for the mental damage I took during the course of time I was guilded with Gaige.

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Malstorm

I really fail to see anything more then oblong, sidetrack, and move along excuses in those postings. Really, what was the reason I was removed from the guild when I asked personally I got no answer, I ask publicly and I get no justification other then [Abridged to prevent reader eye hemorrhaging] "Because we have the powa, and it's totally alright." Of course the exact same set of complaints has been set aginst Cataclysm. I looked for answers in every way and only one person was brave enough to investigate, and fill me in on the answers that they received this is how that interview went:


Response was as follows:

I have no idea what happened exactly to you being banned. But wouldnt mind hearing your side of it. Although I'm sure whatever it was had to be pretty bad since your the first person to be banned from CS. Anyhow I still only have heard bits and pieces of the leadership side, what the fuck happened?

Also in response to:
RE WTF:

That's why I'm kinda confused. The act of removing me from the raid was extreme, but to ban me from the guild is ridiculous. On the raid, a guild mate asked me to take my hate off the brusier, I told him no, but did it anyway. Then *the raid leader* sent me a tell asking if I was being a smart ass or just stupid.

I was offended, and told him it was good to hear from him, suggesting it was offensive for him to think me stupid. Then 15 minuets later, he kicked me out of the raid, and asked me to leave the zone.

When the raid was done, I asked for an explanation, and he called me to the leader’s room. He told me I was out of line in not telling him what was up, and *another leader* took up the call in agreeing with him. Then he tried to justify it with, "I told you what to do, and you didn't do it", but I did, and it wouldn’t be heard. I tried to tell them that the bruiser would die instantly if he was taking anything more then AOEs. Then I asked if I was going to be awarded DKP for sitting out on the raid, and was told no.

Being totally displeased with canceling all the (much better then sitting out of a raid) plans for the night, I said, and then there's nothing I can do. That's when I asked *the leader* to promote my bruiser to my main, and that's when he kicked me out of the guild.

I had 325 DKP, I'm confused as to what's up. It's like *the leader* was having a bad night, and he used that to excuse removing me from the guild. That's my side, what have you heard from the leadership?

Malstorm

*Names have been edited out of document*

Calthine

Hey! Could I sue my old other-MMO guild for slander, defamation of character, punitive damages, emotional damages and sexual harassment?

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EQ2 Allakhazam Senior Community Manager