Fingurs

Ill state it again.

What guild are you in, and what have you done lately? What guild were you in before AV? How much better did you improve your virtual char with AV?How much did AV teach you?

Keep laughing, I dont know why though... you're a guildless, miserable, unwanted piece of crap. Not even Tom on myspace at this point will be your friend. fgt!

-Fingurs

Zira

*munches popcorn* 5 stars so far...

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kenman

You're seriously bragging about being in the top 5 on the server? I could almost see bragging about being second best on the server to Second Dawn, but that's just sad when you've given up all hope and have settled for being a second-rate casual instance guild. Ah well, I'm sure Calipsa must be thrilled with that news. Always whining about having a life and logging incredibly early, now the whole guild does it! You guys scrap the call list by now too?

And I'll guess I'll repeat myself as well, I've been playing Phoenix Wright 3, which is a much more enjoyable game than EQ2 for the time it lasts.

Although I will add that it's pretty cool how I'm an unwanted piece of crap, what's that make all the DPS classes in AV that I outparsed on regular basis? I mean if I'm a piece of crap, they have to be something far worse. Shame on you for bashing your own guild like that!

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Kenman, 70 Berserker
Last Time Played: November 18, 2007

Woot!

Fingurs

I think this is an EQ2 Flames first but... I think I will use your own line against you

You're RETARDED.

You must be, because you still have not said what guild you're in. You still have not stated what you're doing to take down Woushi etc.

Now you're posting about some fgt game you picked up at Computer camp, yet you can't stop posting about the game that is supposably " less fun ".

Kenman you're so easy, pretty soon I'm going to be charged for lyrical rape.

Keep destroying yourself please, like those 12 year old girls on Youtube. Idiot.

-Fingurs

Ajeco

What I offered AV? A wide knowledge of the game's mechanics and how classes worked, which group setups work etc. I often helped building the raid's groups.

Yes I did whine to the leadership. Why? Cause I wanted the guild purged off the slackers that were holding back the guild. They were dead weight that was gotten rid off too slowly.

I'd much rather kill shit with 20 peeps that I know are good then with 24 peeps with 5 more outside the zone, half of which are retards.

Honestly, you could chat people up on Qeynos Harbor or East Freeport and ask them if they'd join. Believe me, that's how I did recruiting when I first established my own raiding guild. And most of the players were very skilled players. Unfortunatly, the changes that were introduced with EoF and with Vanguard coming out left a lot of my guildies disheartened and a lot left for Vanguard. I did not have any desire to rebuild with 3 other guilds dominating so the guild folded.

Good members come and go, that much I know after 2 years of raiding, but the retards tend to stick around cause they know they won't be accepted into any other guild. If the leadership doesn't kick them, they won't leave. Doril was the perfect example. He stuck around, ninja AFKing during raids, but the leadership was very kind to him giving him several chances. Guess what he did after? Ninja AFKs, auto follow, etc.

Why is AV alive? Well, it was alive a few months ago when you were killing Wuoshi for the 1st time, now it's slowly dying out.

The leadership may have worked hard as I DO know how hard it is to be a leader cause I've lead my own raid guild. But from past mistakes I know that if the leadership is hesitating on matters that should easily be resolved like when to kick Doril or Whiteflame, who had no place in the guild whatsoever, it tends to rub on the other members. Or when the leadership is told by a member, in our case Ziff, to shut up, and then do nothing, you have to question yourself about the comptetence of the leadership.

Frank be told, the leadership is waaaay too soft for a hardcore raid guild.

As I'd describe the guild, it was made off family raid leadership material, 1/4 hardcore material and 1/4 retard material and 2/4 good stuff material. Not the best, but good. The retard material had to go, but it never went...

Fingurs

Please explain this revelation.

BTW what guild are you in?

-Fingurs

Lewz

"If AV is so wrong, so evil, so shitty, so this so that... why are they still alive? Still in top 5 on their server. Still raiding? Why? Oh I know, because leadership is smart enough to ignore whiners like you."
- Fingurs


LoL, Congratulations!! lol how can you even bare to put that in writing

Ajeco

The revelation came from the fact that AV is ruining it's reputation and the very dedicated and knowledgable people are leaving it. It went from 2nd best hardcore raiding guild on the server from what I've heard since DoF to being the last hardcore raiding guild on the server.

And why does my current guild have any revelance to how fucked AV is at this time?

kenman

You're pretty retarded if you couldn't look me up on EQ2 players and see my perfectly public profile showing me guildless because I don't really give a fuck.

But damn, you bashed Phoenix Wright? Nobody can dislike it, you're a complete retard bashing things you've clearly never experienced. Sort of how like you hardly ever fucking raided with me at all yet keep bashing me, it's so funny!

Since I'm really too lazy to find the funny parses, here's a random Tactician's Armor parse from AV:

Allies: (02:51) 4623471 | 27037.84 [THE LOWER DPS WIZARD-Ice Nova-18237]
438620 | 2565.03 - WIZARD
394416 | 2306.53 - RANGER
367256 | 2147.70 - BERSERKER (MYSELF)
351488 | 2055.49 - RANGER
344903 | 2016.98 - SWASHBUCKLER
329400 | 1926.32 - BRIGAND
284866 | 1665.88 - ILLUSIONIST
280495 | 1640.32 - WIZARD
233695 | 1366.64 - BRIGAND
201396 | 1177.75 - INQUISITOR
168766 | 986.94 - TEMPLAR
167981 | 982.35 - WARDEN
165462 | 967.61 - GUARDIAN
162405 | 949.74 - TROUBADOUR
142775 | 834.94 - TROUBADOUR
132133 | 772.71 - DIRGE
119182 | 696.97 - FURY
109323 | 639.32 - MYSTIC
102289 | 598.18 - PALADIN
67601 | 395.33 - DIRGE
51132 | 299.02 - TEMPLAR
2452 | 14.34 - MYSTIC
989 | 5.78 - DEFILER

First off, I'll openly admit my DPS sucks. I know it's possible for me to do more than that, and I want to improve.
But why would you pick to bash me when on a fairly consistent basis parses in AV were ordered like this?

I'm outparsing, let's see... A ranger, a swashbuckler, two brigands, an illusionist, and a wizard. Not to mention we have a paladin getting outparsed by a mystic!
You call me shitty, what do you call them? I even came fourth on the overall zonewide of that entire MMIS raid, which really, really sucked dick because we wiped so freaking much.

Allies: (01: 19:05) 82709373 | 17430.85 [ILLUSIONIST-Stake Through the Heart-159972]
8315445 | 1752.47 RANGER
7984487 | 1682.72 WIZARD
7223548 | 1522.35 RANGER
5852311 | 1233.36 BERSERKER (MYSELF)
5699863 | 1201.24 SWASHBUCKLER
5620485 | 1184.51 BRIGAND
5306786 | 1118.40 GUARDIAN
5189189 | 1093.61 WIZARD
4723528 | 995.47 ILLUSIONIST
4327454 | 912.00 BRIGAND
3137393 | 661.20 TROUBADOUR
2766616 | 583.06 INQUISITOR
2414337 | 508.82 TROUBADOUR
2150250 | 453.16 PALADIN
2140215 | 451.05 TEMPLAR
1915091 | 403.60 DIRGE
1721628 | 362.83 DIRGE
1647967 | 347.31 MYSTIC
1587114 | 334.48 WARDEN
891367 | 187.85 FURY
542236 | 114.28 TEMPLAR
162036 | 34.15 INQUISITOR
70597 | 14.88 DEFILER
23516 | 4.96 MYSTIC

I don't proclaim to be the best zerker ever, heck my best MMIS zonewide was only 1.7k, with slightly under 25k overall raid dps, without stakes. But out of all these, why would you call me the shitty one and the problem in the guild?
On the overall zonewide you still have the berserker beating the swashbuckler, both brigands, the illusionist (who used a stake), and one wizard. And out of those five only two managed to beat the guardian. Heck you still even have a priest beating the paladin!

And for the record, the illusionist is not Seepen. Don't want anybody to mistake that I'm accusing him of sucking, because I'm not.

You're fucking stupid if you think the berserker is the sole problem with those parses and not all the total ass dps in general.

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Kenman, 70 Berserker
Last Time Played: November 18, 2007

Woot!

Lewz

Kenman saved this thread.......5 stars, nice evidence there