Tayger

Ok, so since I know that im not the only one in this gaming community who totally DESPISE this guild... I ask that all those who do step forward and voice their opinions on this piece of shit, here are mine.

1.) The guild is full of cliques... like many guilds do but this guild is so fucking pathetic that there is so much infighting I am supprised they EVER get anything done.. its horrible.

2.) When your on Ventrilo there are people who never shut the fuck up.. even when asked by the raid leadership.. and when this so called leadership gets told no they do NOTHING. Grow some fucking dicks. I will name Wonsokman (Aboix), and Ziff.. these are the two biggest douchebags I have ever met in this game. You two were hated on Oasis and transfered to get a new perspective on the game.. and now you're hated on Najena.. grats you two.

3.) I love how they started a call list for contested.. probably the most pathetic move they have ever made in their life considering Second Dawn is on their server. They try to brag up their pathetic accomplishments to their rival guild Siege. Siege is way better than AV.. I hate to break the ice for you fucking moron pieces of shit. You try to defend your guild with nothing... how they have proven that they can take contested down that you only dream of. I find this amusing really when I log on and read the Najena 60-69 chat late at night when you all try to defend yourself.

4.) So lets see.. 3 months ago you were a piece of shit destroyed guild.. you used your reputation from KOS to get a bunch of new members. I love looking at your recruiting list now seeing everyone you need. Theres a reason that you lost your #1 DPS.. your Main Tank group Templar and Defiler.. you blow donkey balls.

5.) Inconsistancy... AV goes into Emerald Halls one week and sucks ass.. then they go into Emerald Halls the next week and suck even more ass. Grats! Lets see.. your main competition siege gets wuoshi done on the first or second pull every week. How can you even compare yourselves.

Jesus there are so many more things I want to say about this horrible guild... the hated guild on the server and the shittiest.. I suggest everyone who ever wants to join this guild to stay away. You'll fucking hate yourself in the end. I for one am extremely glad I left.. it was the best drunken decision ive made in my life.. and ive made alot of drunken decisions.

Fuck you AV.. you worthless pieces of shit.

Lyxson

I don't remember Giff EVER being hated on Oasis, and I asked him if he wanted to be on my ex-oasisians who hate Oasis list and he said he didn't hate Oasis (blasphemy) I always thought he was a cool guy, though.

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Tayger

Haha, well.. thats not what I heard... and were you ever on vent with him? Not sure if you were but hes an annoying piece of shit and you can take my word on that. Im sure he has his friends... but he sure as hell has his enemies --- and its not only me.

Let me add this as well.

You assholes blame your Main Tank for everything. You fucking treat her like shes a used condom that your just about to throw away.. thats fucking bullshit because shes better than any one of you cocksuckers could ever be. There are not many tanks in this game that can hold aggro through anything and shes one of them. I guess that you think treating your members like shit gets you somewhere... the only thing it gets you is people leaving.

Valanthe

1) Skipping.

2) Not touching.

3) Call list to sit and watch Second Dawn kill shit... *shrug* whatever floats your boat.

4) AV has a few really good players (Slyver, Radah, and Aricajade all come to mind right off the bat) but a bunch of really shitty ones too.

5) Consistency's a problem for a lot of guilds, especially with a lot of high turnover guilds.

OK, now that I've answered those:

A lot of the shitty players from the time I was in the guild are gone. For example, Doril. Worst Troubie ever. But that's another story for another day.

Oh, and most of the abuse that Peregrinator gets comes from the stalker OT in the guild. Not naming any names.... Kenman.

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AricaJade

real mature from someone who has basically been going down the roster (as each member put him on ignore) sending tells to start fights & ask why av doesnt like him anymore. when ur in the middle of a raid & someone connects to ur vent when orders r bein given or ur spammed with whiny tells bout "oh why is av so mean to me? what did i ever do to them? why dont they like me anymore?"

then when he realizes we all have him on ignore, connects to vent & IMMEDIATELY tries to pick a fight AGAIN. then to get booted after arguin nonstop with guildies & reconnect to finally get banned (which sparked this little thread).

i used to have respect for u tayger, even after u left. i can respect ppl who decide to leave for their own reasons. keepin in touch with ur old guildies is one thing, i do it myself, but when u keep in touch to do nothin but whine, bitch, moan, pick fights & ultimately cause drama because ur not gettin enough in ur daily diet over on unrest? i have no respect for that.

& as for av?

we're doin just fine. all guilds lose ppl because they decide to move on for 1 reason or another. yes we lost our tank a LONG time ago but that was because he was burnt out because of wearing so many hats during raids. TOTALLY understandable. u werent there for that tayger. defiler & templar? peni & krono r excellent players & i wish them the best of luck in paragon & so do many other av members.

contested? we've gotten pulls thank u. sometimes trading with sd back & forth for hrs. we're making an effort to move av forward. obviously somethin u werent willin to do because u were so ready to leave at the drop of a hat (albeit it was a great performance that u threw the nite u left in group, guild & vent).

once a drama queen, always a drama queen.

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Jenica

I have to agree with some of what Tayger has said. Not sure if they are cocksuckers or what not like Tayger said, but they aren’t the best crew to hang around that’s for sure, well at least not the ones I’ve encountered lol.

It all started about a month ago; I started a Sage camp in Castle Mistmoore when one of their members was interested in joining our group (Whiteflame, Ancient Vengeance Fury). Seeing that he was from Ancient Vengeance, I decided to let him in, thinking he would know how to play his class and what not. We finally get to the place where the sage spawns… already aggravated at how horrible Whiteflame was doing (parse showed that I had done about 85% of the healing since we started the zone not to mention I also out dpsed him, plus he never cured. Being a Templar I have to cure each of those stupid elemental dots that make you cast slow one at a time, where he had a group cure that I’m not sure he even casted once) the worse was about to come.

We had decided as a group that we would do NBG, like most people do. After a couple spawns of the Sage, and getting wood chest – he finally dropped a legendary chest that contained the Novum Tectum. We only had one mage in the group who said they needed it. Sure enough Whiteflame wins it then mysteriously goes linkdead. No big deal I thought to myself, could have been a accident, besides he’s from a well known guild and you would think he cared about his reputation.

The next day he finally logs on, so I simply send him a tell thinking it was all just a misunderstanding… and this was his answer

“I forgot I looted it and that other person needed it, so I attuned it then sold it to a merchant”

The first thing I thought was this guy has to be joking or thought I was just a plain idiot lol. I told him exactly what I thought. I said that he looted it and made up the excuse that he attuned it then sold it to a merchant (who the hell would do this? lol) so he didn’t have to link it to me and he could get sweet sweet moolah off of it.

I would have made a flame about this guy, but sadly I didn’t take Screenshots of this. But I’m sure a lot of people on Najena can back me up who was in the 60-69 channel that night because I had told the whole channel exactly what he said/did.

Then get this, the next day or so I see him trying to sell it, or what he said was a “different” one lol. So I confront him and hes all like “why did you have to ruin my reputation, blah blah blah”. I simply called him a fucktwat retard and told him I wasn’t a idiot. About that time, I didn’t have to say anything else… every time he linked it trying to sell it, someone would be like “Aren’t you that guy who said he attuned then sold that like a dumbass?”

Laughing at his stupidity, a couple of his Ancient Vengeance buddies decide to send me tells (Ziff, and Wonsokman) and this is where I agree with Tayger, they are a couple of the most annoying people ever. They just started trash talking and saying how they are in a better guild or whatnot (I don’t get offended too easy, so I laugh and then gave them a couple facts). A) Siege beat almost every zone well before them (Mayong, Wuoshi,) and B) we have about 4-5 people who left Ancient Vengeance to join us; a couple were server xfers who only stayed about a week or so with them before coming to Siege and say that it just seemed that Ancient Vengeance didn’t have a clue, so they left.

lol so yes I have to agree Tayger, sadly Ancient Vengeance isn’t the guild I used to admire and envy. They were once a really good guild until a few of their good players left, including their leader… then made poor recruitment decisions. So needless to say, I doubt I will ever group with Ancient Vengeance again.

MAN I wish I took those screen shots, what Whiteflame said is so stupid, it almost sounds like I made it up lol.

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Lyxson

Isn't Whiteflame from Oasis?

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Jenica

Also Arcajade, about the contested... I remember when both Ancient Vengeance and Siege showed up at the princes at around the same time. You guys pulled it, wiped and so we pulled it; seeing that we were going to beat it I guess a couple of your members didn't like that so they started jumping around us trying to lag us out or something (I think i remember Whiteflame trying to hump my leg)

Course now that I'm thinking about it... It's prolly not right of me to say that Ancient Vengeance as a whole is crappy, just a few of its members aren't the brightest nor the nicest people out there. Its sad how only a couple people from a guild can ruin my whole out look on who they truly are. But I guess your members should be a image of the guild (at least imo) and if Ancient Vengeance doesnt care about these guy's behavior... it doesnt say much for the guild either.

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AricaJade

yeah the princes thing was because i was tankin on my monk & i had NEVER EVER tanked a raid mob, let alone somethin that a brawler is so important for. so yeah, we wiped, i took FULL blame for that because i messed up on the switch. big deal. & that was kos contested. have u gotten any pulls on eof ones? oh wait...that would be a no

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Krono

hahaha man siege isnt a great guild u know that right??? dont bag out other guilds when yours is no better

and tayger dont try to tell ppl why others left the guild i being that templar is the only person that knows why i left