Venekor

lol, How many times do I have to fucking say it, I do not have nor have I ever had a character on butcherblock!!! I am not trying to trivialize anything. I didnt bring up your guild and I didnt start this thread! Are you fucking blind or what? If your guild doesn't meet my criterion, sorry but that means you aren't on MY list! The strike guild isnt anywhere near you guys either! You are in my top 20 guilds and they might be in my top 50. You are the ones trying to turn this into another thread about you guys. Sorry, but you aren't that important to the worldwide raiding community. I applaud you for at least trying to talk about where you rank guilds, which is what this thread is about.

PS. My monk tanked thundering steppes snakes last night while wearing t1 legendery gear while I was listening to floridas election coverage for a world wide first!!!

Kriddle

I find it very funny how people have their own criteria for who is the best. Some people say guilds that have done the most overall, some say the most recent big thing, and some are basing it off who they compete against. These are all very good ways to see who is the best but the fact is they all play a role. There is also the matter of beta testing, exploits, and dev knowledge that could change the outcome greatly. There are to many what-if situations to really say who is the best and order them. You could probably say these are the top 5 in no order or top 10 because they have all done something worth bragging about but you cant really put a number to them.

The economey on every server is different along with the people that play on them. Some servers have more hardcore raiders and some have more casual. When talking about raid gear, that can be thrown out the window when talking best guild WW. First off most encounters can be done with really crappy gear if you have a good raid guild and strategy. Also with the total randomness of drops some guilds never see an item and others see them every raid.

Scafloc

Dissolution, Second Dawn and NPU have been doing well for the longest. EC are probably 4th, but they didn't do anything special in T6 to set them apart. Aftermath have only started doing really well from TFD. Yeah, both may have dominated their servers before then, but were only killing things lots of people had killed before them. Then you have Arirang who killed DMP but they stopped being to kill stuff in T7, whilst Fable's kills for KoS were consistantly in the top 5 WW, but they suck now. And who cares about guilds who quit expansions ago? Yeah, they world firsted Darathar, but they never even pulled the Djinn Master or Chel'drak?

If it's consistancy though, the top 3 are the only ones that matter. Only those three guilds have been getting significant kills for a long time now.

Henladar Bloodheart

I defined my criteria quite well.. a guild doing better then another guidl in a worldwide point of view overall. You say i need to define better so here you go.

–adjective, compar. of good with best as superl.

1. of superior quality or excellence

There i go i defined it. Sorry it doesnt meet you specifications.. i dont like to get picky and say "If the guild doesnt kiss my ass i wont vote for them!" If you are better in an overall point of view you are better simple as that.

If ignorance is bliss then my friend you are pretty god damn happy.

Henladar Bloodheart

I wanna ask you something venny since your criteria is some of the most fucked up shit in this thread...

If 2 guilds were on the same server... one guild got the WW1st on the mob and the other guild got the WW2nd... would guild B not be shit on the world wide level because they didnt get the server first? Ya they would be shit cause they still competed on a WW level.

Now if Ex worded it just like you would then why didnt you answer.. cause his point is contradictory to yours. Even tho SD would not get all of the server firsts they would still be good on a WW level. Server tops and WW tops are 2 different things that should be seperated. If SD were to have lost 4 server firsts but got the rest WW 1st theyd still be top dog... your "criteria" has too many loop holes.

BTW i tried to drop it and even said i over did things.. but you brought me back up so here i am.

Sinnach

Not to sound biased or anything, but who really cares about ww 1st's on mobs you two group?

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Venekor

Holy crap, saying something is "better" is not criterion, explaining what makes something "better" - IS. You really are a fucking idiot.

Why dont you tell me again how I "threw butcherblock" whatever the fuck that means.

Henladar Bloodheart

I done told you... why do you keep bringing this up being all ignorant? You said you didnt post in the butcherblock forums any more... i said you threw em in the past as in its a thing of the past, you dont give a shit anymore.
You took shit out of context and looked like a retard doing it... if you read the whole sentence it's pretty much understood.

Saying someone did better is criterion.. i mean they did...better. Overall they did better on all the mobs in T7 then another guild... is pretty much understandable why are you being so god damn ignorant? Im sorry i dont have shit such as "They gotta kiss my ass" or "They gotta get all the server firsts and 69% of the contested kills" or "They gotta act in a respectable manner." All im looking for is better as a whole as in killing mobs before other guilds.. it's not that hard to understand.

Saying this
1. SD
2. NPU
3. Disso
4. EC
5. Aftermath

So why dont you get off my god damn dick and stop worrying about it... im sorry its not specific enough for you... i just do it by a way pretty much understood to be a normal way to rank guilds. BTW these are T7 rankings.

Athioc

It's Science

1. Ishbu
2. NPU
3. SD
4. Dissolution
5. Ishbu's Ego

I'd have to say that Ishbu and his ego have both accomplished more than EC or Aftermath... I <3 U Ish

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Lord Pantz

Forgot about this thread. My four were in no specific order. They are the top 4 WW. Can't say which is better when they aren't on the same server. Aftermath, FOH, etc are great guilds but not in the same class as these 4 (SD, EC, NPU, DISSO) IMO.

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