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Ishbu · 11-12-2006, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Malignx

I'm just waiting to hear, (if, and or when) we do WW1st things "Omgz beta hacks!" drama.

Well you cant deny you have had over a month of playing and testing out these encounters ahead of guilds who were not in beta. No matter what changes, you have a hundred times better grasp of what to expect.

The sheer idea that you know it will come because of your time spent in beta should be enough to discredit a beta guild from claiming to be the "best".

Malignx · 11-12-2006, 02:15 PM

We haven't really had a month.

We've been in beta for about a month, yes.

But this beta has consisted us, killing Hurricanus over 200 times, Killing MO, killing Princes, killing an orange bloodbeast 200 times, talking to a Dev. Having a Brawler tank this and win, having a Guardian tank this and lose.

Honestly 99% of our time in this beta has been testing old-content and making sure its "working as intended" for combat changes.

And almost none of it *was* so testing new content was all but impossible.

Basically, the few times that we've seen the new raid content, it was from a Dev that ported us there, after we spent a few of our guilds raid hours testing old content, and he'd be like, you'll probably die, I've got to leave. Goodluck.

We wipe almost instantly or kill it and it had no spells.

All raid content has been revamped over and over.

Beta does give guilds an advantage, but if you saw what we did this beta, you'd realize how little it benefitted us.

You, yourself, solo, in beta, learned probably as much as we did.

TANGARTH · 11-12-2006, 03:05 PM

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Gage · 11-12-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Malignx

We haven't really had a month.

We've been in beta for about a month, yes.

But this beta has consisted us, killing Hurricanus over 200 times, Killing MO, killing Princes, killing an orange bloodbeast 200 times, talking to a Dev. Having a Brawler tank this and win, having a Guardian tank this and lose.

Honestly 99% of our time in this beta has been testing old-content and making sure its "working as intended" for combat changes.

And almost none of it *was* so testing new content was all but impossible.

Basically, the few times that we've seen the new raid content, it was from a Dev that ported us there, after we spent a few of our guilds raid hours testing old content, and he'd be like, you'll probably die, I've got to leave. Goodluck.

We wipe almost instantly or kill it and it had no spells.

All raid content has been revamped over and over.

Beta does give guilds an advantage, but if you saw what we did this beta, you'd realize how little it benefitted us.

You, yourself, solo, in beta, learned probably as much as we did.

Your guild did Emerald Halls before anyone else was even allowed into Faydwer on copied characters. You got to Wuoshi your first time in, so you know the zone layout, know where the other named are, and you pulled Wuoshi a few times on that first trip in.

Roger helps you guys out a lot, and everyone knows it, so denial isn't really worth your time.

So I fail to see how Ishbu, solo, learned as much as you guys did - since Ishbu has never even been in Emerald Halls.

Ishbu · 11-12-2006, 05:33 PM

Yeah your right, you havent been testing the new content for over a month...

Lets assume both your guild and generic guild B who was not in beta enter emerald halls at the exact same time on live. Guild B will have to progress carefully because they know nothing about the encounters, they do not know how many mobs are in them, where they are, what if any traps there are (see HoS), while your guild blazes through all the trash because you have been in there multiple times and knows what to expect from the named mobs.

You claim you just wiped right away and that everything was changed. Thats fucking bullshit and you know it. First off, you cleared everything but Wuoshi in that zone. Ok, I will give you they changed the encounters, but do you still know what the mobs are supposed to do? Do you still know many of their base abilities and what resists and/or debuffs they do? The answer is yes and that is something a person not in beta could never know and would have to spend time wiping and learning wich no longer have to do because you have done so for the last full month.

That screenshot above proves you have a full month advantage on every guild not in beta. Personally I think its sad if you DIDNT beat every single non beta guild to clearning this content because of the huge advantage you have.

Gage · 11-12-2006, 05:44 PM

As usual, Malignx got wtf PWND.

Widem · 11-12-2006, 06:27 PM

how can u possibly come back from that screenshot... ishbu just DESTROYED ur credibility...time to find a rock and rest under it for a month or so.

Malignx · 11-12-2006, 07:14 PM

Actually, that zone had one named, I believe before Wuoshi and thats all we killed, and like I said it had no abilities etc.

From what I heard about a pickup raid on Beta the other day Emerald Halls now has 20 named or so before Wuoshi?

Also, our "few" pulls on Wuoshi was one where we learned nothing b/c he was massivly broken and we wiped in under .2seconds.

And that was the only time we actually went to a new zone, other than that we were simply testing old content.

Oh, and other guilds copied characters were in EoF, Lol. Ask FoH.

Ishbu · 11-12-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Malignx

Actually, that zone had one named, I believe before Wuoshi and thats all we killed, and like I said it had no abilities etc.

From what I heard about a pickup raid on Beta the other day Emerald Halls now has 20 named or so before Wuoshi?

Also, our "few" pulls on Wuoshi was one where we learned nothing b/c he was massivly broken and we wiped in under .2seconds.

And that was the only time we actually went to a new zone, other than that we were simply testing old content.

Oh, and other guilds copied characters were in EoF, Lol. Ask FoH.

I know other guilds were there, thats why I said any beta guild should get the world firsts or they are pathetic. In the post quoted above you admit that because of being in beta you know where Wuoshi is, what his room looks like and have experimented with pulling him in different area's. Thats a ton of information and thats one try, and we all know you have been in that zone more than once.

Malignx · 11-12-2006, 07:26 PM

Then you need to get your facts straight because I've been on every raid for over a month and unless there was some secret beta raids for new content going on, we haven't raided it.

Also, read my post clearly. 1 Pull where we wiped in under .2s, man.. tons of testing.