Top Guilds Worldwide - Page 6

Henladar Bloodheart · 11-07-2006, 09:05 PM

If he was overvaluing the Matron kills wouldnt EC be lower?

Face it you got a bias toward Aftermath that not everyone else has.

MeridianR · 11-07-2006, 10:44 PM

I actually think some of Aftermath are dicks...but I rank them Top5. They drove a strong raid guild off there server (Strike), they were top 5 in both FD raids....and let's face it, most lists are what have you done for me lately, not in the past.

Again I don't have to like them, but I respect what they have done.

Venekor · 11-07-2006, 11:11 PM

Hen, why do you keep trying to pick a fight with me? Just shut up. I don't like tylenal, its a known fact. Do I consider them in the top 15-20 guilds in the game? Yes I do.

I think basing your rankings solely on the last contested mob is stupid. It should be based on a much longer performance period.

Henladar Bloodheart · 11-07-2006, 11:41 PM

Maybe i am trying to pick a fight with you. Is it because i dont like you? no. It's because your points are too biased to even be considered. If anyone else was saying the same things id be picking a fight with them. You said Garroter's list was based too much around Matron. IF it truly was based around FD mobs then Aftermath would be ahead of EC because they killed em before EC.

All im saying is... dont let your hate toward Aftermath control every god damn aspect of your life and give people the respect they deserve assholes or not. Will i admit some members of Aftermath are assholes? Fuck yes. Will i admit im a cocky motherfucker and an asshole at times? Fuck yes. But you can't let that come into thought when you are talking about raiding. If you truly are saying Aftermath is in the 15-20 region of the T7 aspect then you are being biased it is as simple as that.

Aftermath has been around since the OLD days killing shit.. 100% server firsts or not they made one guild go to WoW and another guild switch servers.. so that counts for nothing if your biased book?

On a side note...

You can't truly rate guilds based on an overall point of view cause most of the guilds arnt around anymore. How can you rate that? While Ardent Legion may of been killign T5 shit first how can you compare difficulity to compete and raid with T6 and T7 etc etc etc... i mean there is alot of points. KoS/FD view would be more appropiate in my eyes. (seeing EoF will be considered T7 as well.

Venekor · 11-07-2006, 11:51 PM

Making guilds move to other servers or games was not on my list of criteria for being a top guild. So who gives a fuck? I already posted my criteria, that I think a lot of other people would agree with. I do think that list was too focused on matron.

The way you make it sound is that your criteria is "Matron kill order, and how many guilds they pushed off their server" - Thats your opinion and I garuntee you that no one will agree with you.

'dont let your hate toward Aftermath control every god damn aspect of your life"

That statement was indicative of your shit arguing skills. Every aspect of my life? I don't hate them, and the only thing it "controls" is my ranking of top guilds worldwide.

You can rate guilds over a long period of time, I've done it and many others in this thread have also! So there you have it proof that you can in fact do exactly that!

Now, stop turning this into another flame tylenol thread, it has nothing to do with my ranking, if you look at my criteria they are not at the top because they don't meet them, plain and simple.

Henladar Bloodheart · 11-07-2006, 11:59 PM

Nope i never once said Matron Kill order and pushing guilds off server was my criteria... its pretty obvious by my vague top 5. Im looking at an overall T7 point of view which imo most others should do. I mean cmon look at the rankings of the people that tried all time. Was there any even close to similar? maybe one but hell you cant really rank an overall thing.

If you are trying to make a rank where Overall point of views are gonna differ so much then you shouldnt be trying. but T7 most people can agree on and give similar ideas.

as for your hate toward aftermath only effecting your ranks... ya thats why about 275 of your 350 posts are about Aftermath even tho you say you arnt from the server. Sure.... your hate is only effecting your rank in the thread....

Venekor · 11-08-2006, 12:20 AM

"'dont let your hate toward Aftermath control every god damn aspect of your life""

According to you its controlling my entire life. Which was of course an inane statement.

I rank according to t7 and dmp in t6 which was what being discussed. Thats my criteria, if it leaves any guild out that you are whining about, again, I am sorry. You are entitled to an opinion that most wouldn't agree with.

I don't even post on your server boards anymore. I have nothing left to say to anyone from butcherblock until Eof. Notice you mentioned the tylenol guild first, I did not.

I rank by guilds by being in the top three of major kills consistantly. I rank by guilds getting server firsts on the important mobs and instances in Kos and TFD. I rank by guilds maintaining complete lockdown on contested(with no or few losses from the begining of t7). I rank by guilds killing dmp in t6. Those are fair criterion which you may disagree with.

Look, you continue to defend tylenol at every chance you get, hows this? I don't give a fuck, if you want to continue sucking their dick thats your perogative, leave me out of it. If you don't even get server firsts on major mobs In my opinion you cannot be considered for top world wide status - and that goes for any server any guild. Case closed, if someone wants to post what they think makes a top worldwide guild then thats fine, but I;m not turning this thread into another flame tylenol thread like you keep pathetically trying to bait me into doing, I've spoken my piece about that already.

Gaige · 11-08-2006, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MeridianR

If you are doing all time, then sorry but Ardent Legion > Disso, Second Dawn, and NPU in that list. Those 3 are probably in the top 10 (and I have nothing but respect for all 3) but Ardent Legion and Ascendance were #1/2 through the beginning of DoF.

Ardent Legion did one thing and one thing only, they world firsted Darathar. They did so because devs ported them to the Darathar instance when it was broken and none of the other guilds on that step could get in.

When it got patched I think two or three guilds killed it patch day.

Proving what? That Ardent Legion is overrated.

Venekor · 11-08-2006, 12:32 AM

Agreed Gaige.

Henladar Bloodheart · 11-08-2006, 12:34 AM

I dont really get how defending my server as whole turns into sucking someones dick.. i mean cmon now. If you are gonna try and flame come up with something logically plz. You continue to hide anon and say let's see how you do in EoF like your opinion truly matters. Last time i checked people too scared of the persecution that would follow dont really have an opinon.

While i was first to actually use the word Aftermath you were the first to mention them indirectly. I'm using that word thinking your small brain can comprehend it.

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Originally Posted by Venekor

I agree, NPU, SD, Disso all near the top then EC, Defiant, Maybe FoH. Yeah killing DMP in t6 is pretty significant as far as rating guilds over time. I think getting all of the server firsts on important mobs is also a factor.

Thats you first discrediting them. It's known fact that that was your main basis behind them sucking... on a side note you are trying to tell me that most people would agree with you having FoH Defiant being top 5? Ya because ive seen so many people say this besides you...

Nothing was directly stated as what's being discussed.. the OP just said top guilds. So im gonna ask ya to give me your top 5 of JUST T7 and ill be here to call it bullshit because its biased and because the opinion really has no value because you are afraid of what people say to you.