Veeshan's Peak - WTF - Page 19

Leethal · 12-19-2007, 12:03 PM

i guess if you want to call it that, go ahead. but it doesn't require more healers in the raid.

Chumann · 12-19-2007, 02:22 PM

I'm completely confused by your comments Jaraxx. They seem to contradict each other. At the beginning of the thread you said that persistent zones and repair kits/bots were the boon of raid content, making them too easy. But then you say that you die about once a fight against trash, and sometimes twice against named. Then you say that getting one shotted as a tank is "hardcore" or something. How exactly do you plan to tank a full zone if you're getting one shotted every encounter if you can't repair in some way?

Now I don't know how to fix these issues, but I don't like the "one-shot makes things hard" mentality. There just isn't enough gear to keep a tank tanking without some way of repairing.

Gage · 12-19-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaraxx

If you have more then 6 priests on a raid your tank should really never die in VP Assuming you have a defiler and mystic. Since most people have atleast 7 priests in their guild I really don't see what the problem is.

We normally run 7 but have no mystic. I'll say this, Silverwing is a "fun" fight when both of your templars are on xmas vacation!

hearth · 12-19-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Irgin

But after all, VP is just like any other bigger raidzone.
There are very well scripted encounters, others are absolutely pathetic and some are pretty tough.

Fuck VP.

Basically this will be the fuck your scout in the face expansion, so load up on mages already. When you sit there counting how many times your range is hitting and reading websites at the same time during a named fight, you fucking know something is wrong. All the scripts are shit, if not bugged.

And fuck SOE for making full raid keying, when 50% raid flag would be sufficient, so you are not fucked casue someone LD or have emergency.

Fuck VP and its loot.
How the fuck is a group zone giving way better shit than a t4 raid zone. How the fuck and why am I wearing half the shit from solo quest while shits are getting transmuted on the first week of raiding.

Fucking gay ass loot, I think I will probably get better shit if I break up the raid into 4 groups and farm JasWaste for solo named and hope for a legendary drop.

The Dev that did VP needs to get this piece of shit code rammed up his ass and DIAF, while the itemization Dev should have his head rammed up the Dev that did the VP zone at the same time.

Total shit !

Sabrielle · 12-19-2007, 03:20 PM

Yeah, the ranged fights are pretty retardo if you are a scout (besides rangers), especially when half the mobs reduce the amount of dmg they take by a shit load. Milyex or w/e the fuck is an afk fight ftw.. as a healer I can just queue up some heals and then go surf the web. I guess every zone though needs its punching bags (seems to be a few to many in VP though). I guess the only redeeming factor with punching bag mobs is that it is basically free loot. Some of the loot is just stupid awesome, and some of it is just plain stupid. The fabled arms from Maidens are better then a pair of shouldars from VP - That should never happen. I did not raid hardcore like this till near the end of T7 so i am not positive when i say this, but a few friends of mine said that some of the loot in EH was modified a little bit due to the suck factor it brought. If that is true, and along with the complaints of a lot of raiders, i would not be surprised if the loot was eventually changed. Instance fable > some VP fabled, and a bunch of priest items with a detaunt proc, 2h staffs with only +85 or some odd spell dmg with shitty stats. Like you said hearth, there is no reason items should be xmuted so early into an expansion. Trakanon and the avatars better drop some pretty fuckin uber loots cause overall i think raiders are a little disappointed with loot thus far.

Gage · 12-19-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hearth

And fuck SOE for making full raid keying, when 50% raid flag would be sufficient, so you are not fucked casue someone LD or have emergency.

Quit being a goddamned pussy. You can flag people for VP in one night, nps.

Flagging is ftw, and your whining is ftl.

TANGARTH · 12-19-2007, 03:28 PM

having mobs level 86 and 87 is stupid, if you want to fuck just scouts for no reason have a short range aoe so at least they have something to do, but honestly, there's no reason for mobs to be over 85 than to just fuck up 1/4 of the raid's dps.

Leethal · 12-19-2007, 03:44 PM

a quarter of the raid? more like over half the raid.

TANGARTH · 12-19-2007, 03:56 PM

all in all it's bullshit

Leethal · 12-19-2007, 04:22 PM

Plus some of the loot in there needs a revamp. Nothing more annoying than seeing all these stupid round shields with effects nowhere near buckler of the howler, or all these satchels with crap damage and only 25 meter range when combine war and pouch of the grove have 35 meter range