Veeshan's Peak - WTF - Page 22

Frogweiser · 12-21-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaraxx

Berserkers are a fucking joke. However they still have reflexs.

uhhhh what?

gungo · 12-21-2007, 11:23 AM

I also been seeing alot of guilds using more then 2 shaman, mostly 2 mystics 1 defiler. Simply becuase wards get raped so fast 3 shaman warding actually helps with those big spike hits. Furthermore 2 mystics chain casting bolster (and if any of yoru priests have the growth staff) really fucking help when your tank is sitting at 24k hitpoints.

With bolster, wards, the new damage reduction intercepting pets you really can prevent most issues with a double atk 1 shotting your tank. It is not as much luck and randomness as people here seem to make it out to be.

simply put 2 mystics, reuse reduction gear chain casting bolster and wards means you never have to worry about your tank getting 1 shooted unless yoru mystics suck.

Normack · 12-21-2007, 11:24 AM

Pretty sure he is referring the the end ability in the AGI tree.

Frogweiser · 12-21-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Normack

Pretty sure he is referring the the end ability in the AGI tree.

Yeah, i got that much. I was referring to why a berserker would have that ability.

Fomka · 12-21-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gungo

I also been seeing alot of guilds using more then 2 shaman, mostly 2 mystics 1 defiler. Simply becuase wards get raped so fast 3 shaman warding actually helps with those big spike hits. Furthermore 2 mystics chain casting bolster (and if any of yoru priests have the growth staff) really fucking help when your tank is sitting at 24k hitpoints.

With bolster, wards, the new damage reduction intercepting pets you really can prevent most issues with a double atk 1 shotting your tank. It is not as much luck and randomness as people here seem to make it out to be.

simply put 2 mystics, reuse reduction gear chain casting bolster and wards means you never have to worry about your tank getting 1 shooted unless yoru mystics suck.

which leads to... recruit more healers? well mystics in our case.

Fomka · 12-21-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Normack

I can tank everything this expansion as good as anyone. I'm also a monk who isn't set up in a "MT group". Yes, shit hits hard. Do you need 2 guardians and 2 MT group setups? Fuck no.

well, i should've said bruisers tbh, because monks own. and no, I doubt you can tank everything as a guardian, you can tank, but far behind guardian.

gungo · 12-21-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fomka

which leads to... recruit more healers? well mystics in our case.

Not really you can have 3 shaman and still run 6-7 healers.
You can either not use a warden, effectivly now the least useful healer. OR you could just roll with 7 healers.

Heck alot of guilds were doubleing up on templars before there really not as needed in this expansion as 2 mystics. Eitherway the fact Vp has been cleared by many guilds with either 1 or NO mystic shows you do not NEED to recruit more healers. BUT 2 mystics will makes life a shit ton easier with all the reuse reductions and bolster.

Gaige · 12-21-2007, 11:52 AM

We have 0 mystics, one guardian and we use a berserker, monk, guardian, pally tank combo (monk for emergency peels mainly).

No bolster. No dual guardians.

I think a lot of you guys are... oh I dunno... crying pussies?

gungo · 12-21-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

We have 0 mystics, one guardian and we use a berserker, monk, guardian, pally tank combo (monk for emergency peels mainly).

No bolster. No dual guardians.

I think a lot of you guys are... oh I dunno... crying pussies?

yea like i said it has been cleared by many guilds with all different styles and types of toons. Would certain combos make things a little easier sure. Is anything required, nope.

Lizerd Keng · 12-21-2007, 12:26 PM

I wouldn't totally agree with jarax that zerkers are a joke. They do need some love, as the berserk proc, which is our class defining skill, is near worthless with soft caps and totally worthless when hitting the hard caps.

But a zerker with reflexes, now that's a joke.

Without reflexes, the pally and/or I are staying up long enough to get the guard a rez and ready to go. For a MT guard, agility line is absolutely awesome. For an OT guard, meh whatever. For a MT zerker, ya maybe. For any other zerker (which includes probably 95%+ of them), completely retarded waste of points.