If Avatars are the same, would you still want to play EQ2 as a top-tier raider? - Page 5

Manratten · 12-24-2007, 11:48 AM

The really cool thing about the poll was that when the Avatars do turn out to be the same, every day Pinski plays...he is self proclaiming himself to be a moron.

Johnathon · 12-24-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

I can't really think of that many Stoneskin proc items that are "Attuneable Lore" that main tanks use apart from the old Ancient Dreadscale Greaves if they where lucky enough to get them.

Then the simple solution to that is to give them a ward proc on melee attack much like the Reet Helm.

Who said it has to be "Attuneable Lore" to be overpowering when stacked?

hennyo · 12-24-2007, 02:11 PM

Honestly, there are COUNTLESS ways to make healing a skill for raid mobs in this game without retarded stuff like double attack. In fact this whole thing makes me want to write up a post listing a good 20+ mechanics that could be imployed to effectivly do that. Tho if you ask me, the whole avodiance mechanic needs to be completly redone in this game to really fix the issue.

Just for starters, sheilds should have a block chance like they currently do, but when they block, instead of just making it where you don't take any damage, instead sheilds block a set amount of X damage type, blocks 6000 crushing and 4000 heat, and then has mitagation value for the block, such as 40 percent of everything beyound the 6000 crushing. So a 16,000 point hit is blocked, and 6000 is absorbed, then 40 percent of that, for a total hit of 6000 that still got thru.

Then there are also ideas like unhealable damage called vile damage in DnD. The thing is there are ALOT of solutions out there to fix the issue, it just takes someone with a brain and a creative mind in their head with the power to make the changes to fix it.

Euron Greyjoy · 12-24-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hennyo

Honestly, there are COUNTLESS ways to make healing a skill for raid mobs in this game without retarded stuff like double attack. In fact this whole thing makes me want to write up a post listing a good 20+ mechanics that could be imployed to effectivly do that. Tho if you ask me, the whole avodiance mechanic needs to be completly redone in this game to really fix the issue.

Just for starters, sheilds should have a block chance like they currently do, but when they block, instead of just making it where you don't take any damage, instead sheilds block a set amount of X damage type, blocks 6000 crushing and 4000 heat, and then has mitagation value for the block, such as 40 percent of everything beyound the 6000 crushing. So a 16,000 point hit is blocked, and 6000 is absorbed, then 40 percent of that, for a total hit of 6000 that still got thru.

Then there are also ideas like unhealable damage called vile damage in DnD. The thing is there are ALOT of solutions out there to fix the issue, it just takes someone with a brain and a creative mind in their head with the power to make the changes to fix it.

Hmm... you're on to something... that sounds like the most retarded idea I have ever heard!

Phrozen · 12-25-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnathon

Love to tell that to all the people who have a ton of those items.... =| How you gonna give them their cash back?

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Originally Posted by Johnathon

Who said it has to be "Attuneable Lore" to be overpowering when stacked?

I only said "Attuneable Lore" since you said about people getting thier cash back. "Lore No-trade" items are typically not brought unless you brought loot rights to said items.

And the only items Ive typically seen tanks using are the Slippers from T7 Avatars and the Dreadscale greaves, so two stoneskin proc items... Make the Greaves a ward proc like the reet helm, job done.

Erkekjetter · 12-25-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

I only said "Attuneable Lore" since you said about people getting thier cash back. "Lore No-trade" items are typically not brought unless you brought loot rights to said items.

And the only items Ive typically seen tanks using are the Slippers from T7 Avatars and the Dreadscale greaves, so two stoneskin proc items... Make the Greaves a ward proc like the reet helm, job done.

Not in a hardcore raid guild myself but I gotta agree those Dreadscale Greaves are OP for how easy they are to obtain, Dispersion and any other stoneskin procs for tanks that you can obtain outside of a raid zone = retarded.

Faxon · 12-25-2007, 03:29 PM

i only say yes because i never downed an avatar last tier, so they would still be new content to learn for me. HOWEVER, that doesnt justify being lazy fuckers and re-releasing the same content with new loot with "tweaks". if that is their justification for how they are upgrading the avatars, then pandemonium actually got WW1st on AoV version 3?.0 or some shit, because thats more or less what it sums up to. i know if i were in disso or some other guild who holds that spot on their server i would probably quit though

ed: btw i didnt read the thread at all b4 i posted (again). given what pinski intended i probably would have voted no hehe

Mojo · 12-25-2007, 07:44 PM

Who gives fuck about Pandemonium ?!

TANGARTH · 12-25-2007, 08:31 PM

I don't care how good the gear is if the encounters suck, I've got 4 months left so I'll putter around and have some fun with the peeps I've been playing with if they hang around too.

There's other mmo's, but I'm only rich in this one

Gage · 12-25-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TANGARTH

I don't care how good the gear is if the encounters suck

So you don't raid to farm gear, you raid to experience the encounters?