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Old 12-27-2007, 04:11 PM  
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If they weren't redesigning the old avatars, then why did they take them down when RoK was released?

Hopefully because they originally planned on just bumping up the levels of the original avatars but then realized that this would indeed be a bad idea and that they don't have enough time to complete the new scripts so they decided to delay it.
Or the itemization wasn't complete.

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Avatar itemization is going to be a massive undertaking. Do you improve on the old tables? Or add completely different items? How to you upgrade 100% melee crit or stoneskin procs? Seems like a can't win situation with either marginally upgraded Avatar tables or best-of-the-best old "retired" T7 unattainable loot.
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:14 PM  
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Or the itemization wasn't complete.
which has never been a problem in eq2
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:28 PM  
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Honestly, I don't think it has anything at all to do with itemization. Like stated it has never stopped them before, even this expansion, so why do it with Avatars?

What is it then? They didn't want us killing Avatars one week into the expansion so they just aren't there, because I guarantee if they where in game we would be killing them. It is another artificial cock block to try to slow progression just like gems for patterns in vp.
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Old 12-27-2007, 07:47 PM  
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introduce lag to VP that'll keep you clowns busy.
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Old 12-28-2007, 02:24 AM  
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Or the itemization wasn't complete.
I doubt this is true from reasons listed above. The entire itemization of this expansion so far is a fucking joke. It's like they didn't learn a god damn fucking thing from their prior loot revamps in EVERY OTHER FUCKING EXPANSION TO DATE SO FAR.

Hopefully the devs learned from last expansion that adding uniques that had about 33-50% of dropping off an avatar that most servers only saw twice during an entire expansion is not a good idea.

Another bad idea they did was having a shared loot table that is massive. All this does is leave huge disparities in rewards between guild A with good luck and guild B with shit luck.

Lastly, they should've learned from EoF that if they're going to spend time and design an encounter, make its availability consistent. Excellent job on keeping your 1% of 1% quote accurate with with Brell, Tranquility, and Fear!
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Old 12-28-2007, 02:49 AM  
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I bet one of their team meetings this week went like this:

SOE Dev1: GU42 is approaching fast how's avatars looking?

SOE Dev2: The 3 news ones are complete sir! I've upped the output damage on the previous 9 to be in line with T8 contesteds.

SOE Dev1: Oh no, what's this on EQ2Flames!? Raiders don't want rehashed content? What are we going to do now!?

SOE Dev2: Don't worry sir! We'll use the holiday break as an excuse to delay the update. Then I'll change 6 of the old avatars to be new and exciting!

SOE Dev1: Ummm, there's 9 avatars not 6.

SOE Dev2: Exactly my point! I'm obviously not going to change Brell, Tranquility, and Fear since they'll never spawn anyway.

SOE Dev1: Great idea! I had a feeling your dumb spawn system would turn out to be pretty smart after all.
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:04 AM  
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First of all, i would just liek to say this made me laugh for like 10 minutes, and im useing it as part of my sig.


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wishing all the good players to leave will still leave you looking like a 4 year old clicking the buttons, you should really shit your mouth if you're so bad in game that you can't make a post without people jumping on you for being so dumb.

Or prove us wrong and out parse a troubadour, either or.


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I bet one of their team meetings this week went like this:

SOE Dev1: GU42 is approaching fast how's avatars looking?

SOE Dev2: The 3 news ones are complete sir! I've upped the output damage on the previous 9 to be in line with T8 contesteds.

SOE Dev1: Oh no, what's this on EQ2Flames!? Raiders don't want rehashed content? What are we going to do now!?

SOE Dev2: Don't worry sir! We'll use the holiday break as an excuse to delay the update. Then I'll change 6 of the old avatars to be new and exciting!

SOE Dev1: Ummm, there's 9 avatars not 6.

SOE Dev2: Exactly my point! I'm obviously not going to change Brell, Tranquility, and Fear since they'll never spawn anyway.

SOE Dev1: Great idea! I had a feeling your dumb spawn system would turn out to be pretty smart after all.
lol....
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:58 AM  
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if they leave avatars the same the first guild to hate will first pull it because the adds wont engage, that will be good for some lols
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wishing all the good players to leave will still leave you looking like a 4 year old clicking the buttons, you should really shit your mouth if you're so bad in game that you can't make a post without people jumping on you for being so dumb.

Or prove us wrong and out parse a troubadour, either or.
lol @ "all the good players."

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