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Old 01-08-2008, 08:13 PM  
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Hey guys, my guild has tried on the 3 different days to kill Venril for about 3 hrs each and we just want to kill our comps. ANY help on how to kill would be nice. This is what we have figured so far.

-Get power to and keep 100% of the fight ~55% before 75% life on Venril
-at 60% he starts watching you + the power drain/gain on 2 different people
-the statues in the back of his room
- The cube at 65%
-Nox dot (can't get accurate timer) that needs to be cured

WE use Nox pots for the nox dot
We us Clarity pot/Heart/Shards to maintain power
WE have Illus x2 and Coerx2 for Mana Flow and Wiz/Lock for the feeding
Have people call in vent if they get the drain/gain. Sprint for the gain and feed for the drain
WE have Dirge x2 and Troub x2
WE use Auto atk mostly ones we get 55% power then if we gain 1-2% power we hit a CA to take down

BUT WE STILL CAN’T BEAT THIS MOB!!!!!

is there anything we missing, is the a sign BEFORE the blue out lines for the drain/gain a way to beat this mob without worrying about pwr. a way to keep a GOOD flow of power to all to avoid the drain.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:28 PM  
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you understand every aspect of the fight now you must perform it~
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:36 PM  
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I don't ever bother with mana flow, even with AAs it still takes 22sec to land, and if you get the real drain, you are already SOL by then.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:53 PM  
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Hey guys, my guild has tried on the 3 different days to kill Venril for about 3 hrs each and we just want to kill our comps. ANY help on how to kill would be nice. This is what we have figured so far.

-Get power to and keep 100% of the fight ~55% before 75% life on Venril
-at 60% he starts watching you + the power drain/gain on 2 different people
-the statues in the back of his room
- The cube at 65%
-Nox dot (can't get accurate timer) that needs to be cured

WE use Nox pots for the nox dot
We us Clarity pot/Heart/Shards to maintain power
WE have Illus x2 and Coerx2 for Mana Flow and Wiz/Lock for the feeding
Have people call in vent if they get the drain/gain. Sprint for the gain and feed for the drain
WE have Dirge x2 and Troub x2
WE use Auto atk mostly ones we get 55% power then if we gain 1-2% power we hit a CA to take down

BUT WE STILL CAN’T BEAT THIS MOB!!!!!

is there anything we missing, is the a sign BEFORE the blue out lines for the drain/gain a way to beat this mob without worrying about pwr. a way to keep a GOOD flow of power to all to avoid the drain.


You need 24 people that dont suck
Preists that can cure "faster than the speed of stupid"
MT that can hold agro

Venril is dead


oh ya you also need some guy to click statues
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:56 PM  
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yep, agreed... you have everything you need to beat him... just need to do it. If I have any suggestion... do it faster. The longer it takes, the more chance of it going bad.

Sounds like your DPS is too low. Aim to have it dead before/during the 3rd drain pair.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:32 AM  
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you understand every aspect of the fight now you must perform it~
Yeah, just boot any retards, you'd be better off going with 18 or less, than 24 with 1-6 retards.

Seriously though, fight isnt hard, Venril hits like a pansy, it's just a script that you must follow.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:43 AM  
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The best advice I can give you is Don't be Afraid to DPS the mob. I timed Mana Sacrifice and it seemed to land about every 45 Seconds give or take a few seconds. When it lands, that is your free ticket for everyone who does NOT have it to DPS the fuck out of the mob, just watch your power.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:13 AM  
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like others have said, you have already figured out the mechanics of the fight... and you're now running into the "why are retards wiping my raid" part of RoK

the fight is not difficult at all. stare at your power bar like it's a fucking job. put your debuff window next to your power bar and watch for the mana sacrifice icon like it's your other fucking job. priests group cure the nox dot IMMEDIATELY; use potions if you can't manage this. don't res dead people (even better: don't die).

if people are at the right power levels and are actually watching their debuff window for the mana sacrifice icon, then they can simple stop casting when it shows up and be ok. if you have assholes who like to hang out at 26% power, cast power hungry spells often, and suck too much to be trusted to watch their own debuffs, then boot them from the raid and do it with less people.

keep booting untrustworthy retards from the raid until you're satisfied that everyone in your raid is capable of following simple instructions. ignore the bitches and whines from people who get butthurt when the raid leader tells them to sit out. hope that you have enough left in guild to win. =)
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:49 AM  
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To reduce the retard factor, you might want to have the people maintain power between 45-60% so if they get tapped it won't wipe the raid as easily.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:50 AM  
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So whats the sweet spot for power on this fight. Between 50 and 55% safe enough or can you go lower without getting the adds?

EDit** NM - someone just answered above
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