it's raining wood - Page 5

Taear · 01-19-2008, 10:42 PM

I play this game to have fun, and you know what really isn't fun? Getting a group together to go to any instance you care to name, going through it (even if it's a 30 minute CoA run) and getting absolutely nothing for anyone in the group. I've had one Ornate from Gruplinort ever and I do the zone at least every other day.
I don't understand why you can't make it so every mob drops an Ornate but the best items come a little more rarely. It's already close to that, with things like the Armguard of the Farseer that only drops from Exquisite chests off one named and rarely at that. It's not as though each mob doesn't have a pretty large loot table.

Chelsith has such bad drop rates that nobody bothers to go there at all. Yes there's a few impressive items. But do you get to see them? Of course not. And again it's not like the instance is easy. Especially on Venekor where the mix of classes is so heavily in favour of scouts over anything else.

It wouldn't be so bad if they implemented the smart loot system like EoF had, so at least when things did drop ornate, we wouldn't be getting defiler shoulders (there's like three defilers on our entire server, so going there with a defiler isn't something that happens) out of the fucking chests every time.

Today we did CoA in a five man group of two berserkers, a warden, a troub and an assassin. We ended up having to call in a final person for the last named because we couldn't quite kill it before the warden (he's level 74) ran out of power.
It took them about 15 minutes to get out to the instance. And you know what the final mob dropped? Inquisitor plate gussets. What a fucking waste of time.

Grouper · 01-20-2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Taear

I play this game to have fun, and you know what really isn't fun? Getting a group together to go to any instance you care to name, going through it (even if it's a 30 minute CoA run) and getting absolutely nothing for anyone in the group. I've had one Ornate from Gruplinort ever and I do the zone at least every other day.
I don't understand why you can't make it so every mob drops an Ornate but the best items come a little more rarely. It's already close to that, with things like the Armguard of the Farseer that only drops from Exquisite chests off one named and rarely at that. It's not as though each mob doesn't have a pretty large loot table.

Chelsith has such bad drop rates that nobody bothers to go there at all. Yes there's a few impressive items. But do you get to see them? Of course not. And again it's not like the instance is easy. Especially on Venekor where the mix of classes is so heavily in favour of scouts over anything else.

It wouldn't be so bad if they implemented the smart loot system like EoF had, so at least when things did drop ornate, we wouldn't be getting defiler shoulders (there's like three defilers on our entire server, so going there with a defiler isn't something that happens) out of the fucking chests every time.

Today we did CoA in a five man group of two berserkers, a warden, a troub and an assassin. We ended up having to call in a final person for the last named because we couldn't quite kill it before the warden (he's level 74) ran out of power.
It took them about 15 minutes to get out to the instance. And you know what the final mob dropped? Inquisitor plate gussets. What a fucking waste of time.

Every named drop ornate? Is that a fucking joke? Are YOU a joke? I have seen two master spells and 3 ornate drop off that named Reet your talking about in CoA. Infact he droped a master chest for us tonight. It was one of THREE that droped in there. It droped 2 the last run i made.

Illuminator · 01-20-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Taear

Chelsith has such bad drop rates that nobody bothers to go there at all.

Reminds me of Nizara. Maybe the bracelet was supposed to be the carrot that had me returning, but after the stories got out about just how rare it was and how good players didn't get it but random retards DID, I wanted nothing to do with the zone.

Fomka · 01-20-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gungo

There is no way someone 5 boxing can get to each ph faster then a brawler fake death training in a dou. He might be sitting in the undead jailor room killing those 2-3 ph's but the other 12 ph's are spread out enough that you can lock those down.

yes he can, actually I was running after his bot crew once to see how he is killing everything + collecting all sort of shinys.

Taear · 01-20-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Grouper

Every named drop ornate? Is that a fucking joke? Are YOU a joke? I have seen two master spells and 3 ornate drop off that named Reet your talking about in CoA. Infact he droped a master chest for us tonight. It was one of THREE that droped in there. It droped 2 the last run i made.

No, why would it be a joke? Just have not so good stuff drop there. I hate getting the same shit off a named mob that I could get from a normal mob anywhere else in the game.
The next to last mob in CoA always drops ornate (ornate rubbish), so why does it matter too much?

Fibs · 01-20-2008, 11:12 AM

Chelsith is probably the worst heroic instance in RoK. It's long, incredibly boring and most of the named mobs drop only a piece of treasured crap. Going there is nothing but a huge waste of time.

Calbiyum · 01-22-2008, 04:47 PM

It's people like the OP that fuck this game up. Run a raid if you want metal.

Aere · 01-22-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Catseyes

but having 80% wood drop is non sense.

in DoF, an 80% wood night was fucking phenomenal.

gungo · 01-22-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fomka

yes he can, actually I was running after his bot crew once to see how he is killing everything + collecting all sort of shinys.

He and his auto follow program is absolutely amazing then considering i am hopping all over thats castle jumping walls and killing 14 named/ph's (no trash) in 10-15 minutes. Btw i got another one saturday so 24 down 4 to go.

i really don't get what you guys want. For them to increase master drops rates so that you are garaunteed a master 1 out of 4 heoric named kills? right now i am seeing about a 5% named drop rate on masters. I think the heroic and solo drop rates are fine. Masters were to common before.

If anything was done all i would like to see is raids able to drop ANY master from 71-80 and possibly increase the epic master drop rate so that at least 33% of every chest (maximum) had a master. Even at that rate masters would flood the market.

Catseyes · 01-28-2008, 09:15 AM

It's people like the OP that fuck this game up. Run a raid if you want metal.

Raid = one metal per mob assured. Instances = one metal over how many hours of run ?

May be one day your brain will see some light, and you'll figure that some of us just cannot raid even if they would want to ? And that doesnt have to make us see shit only of the game ?

There are two ways in this game, and one is faster than the other one to gear up. guess what one ?

TO get something we need more luck than any dkp amount.
chest drop (chance of metal drop over wood or ornate ?)
loot drop ( the loot tables are huge, you can never see the drop)
loot win (if after some weeks the thing drop at least, you can still loose it to a lucky boy or greedy one )

let's calculate how many hours you raid before getting raid loot and how many hours we need to get the same item value in instances.