Ishbu

Ok, you seem to at least seem to have a good grasp on things, so Ill drop the sarcastic/insulting crap for a bit.

On the subject of "shifting" loyalties. Psykil and I really never had any loyalties towards each other, even at the height of our friendship. In the 2 years this game has been out we were guilded together maybe a month tops and that was when he was in a new guild and I was a shell of what I had been previously and what I was since I left. There was never anything to be loyal to each other about.

One thing we should all know is that in terms of MMO's, friends come and go. People change, people choose different paths, people quit, etc. Before the servers are powered down for good me and pyskil may end up best friends, we may end up in the same guild, we may end up being the biggest rivals this game has ever seen. What happens right now has no bearing on that at all because this is just an online game. Psykil and Amnesiac have witnessed first hand what can happen when people put aside the past and work together as was the case when Dissolution was formed, I am sure they both know it very well.

If anything, my stance has remained firm the entire time. I have always been outspoken, vocal, and adamanent about developer interference, favortism, and things of that nature. I have never wavered from that. Psykil says I am retarded because I view CL as nothing but another one of those guilds that couldnt do it without a little "extra" help. The bottom line for me is that CL received special help from the developers that is not available to everyone who is deserving of it, regardless of weather CL actually made use of that or not, they did receive that help. In my mind that will forever standout. Afterall, you did it once, who is to say you havent done it more times or wont do it more times in the future?

It is easy to strip naked and blindly zerg a mob just to make the zone crash from the dieing/reviving in mass quantities, how can anyone trust that CL wont just do that and then get their developer friends to reset their lockout once the zone does crash? Obviously if you choose do this you wont come forth publicy about it and would deny it, you would have to, so the arguement will be always stuck in a deadlock. With this CL has set precedence for getting special help from developers and are obviously in close communication with them to the point where they get special favors done for the guild.

Today its your EH lockout. Tomrow maybe its your MIS. You have shown the ability to have your lockouts reset even after having killed a named mob in the zone so the bottom line will always be you did that and you have to live with it. Obviously me posting about it bothered some of you (see Fumtik having a fit, Pyskil sending tells in game, the list goes on, etc etc), so to me that screams you know you got a benefit that you shouldnt have and your ashamed and trying to downplay it as much as possible.

Draydin

Sizzle

I agree though, nothing of merit has been killed worth mentioning. People seem to flop back and forth on this point but it's true.

Clockwork Menace? Joke...
Malkonis? Meh, the dude before him is much harder...

Lets get our E-Peens and Neener Neener's back out when one of us drops Mistmoore, Woushi or the Pumpkin Fuck mmmmkay?

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Draydin

Not to belittle any relationship you and Psykil share, but I'm pretty sure Wisren was referening to someone else in Dissolution.

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Ishbu

All pale in comparison to the avatars. Personally I have a feeling everyone is going to beat all these things within the same week just like clockwork/freethinkers. It just all has such a......methodical, feel to it, doesnt it?

Draydin

Unfotunately I'd hazard to guess the avatars are bugged ala the original Matron, and once said 'bugs' are corrected we'll see everyone rip through the gambit of them in a month.

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Wisren

/nod

I'm really not sure what other lockouts CL has had undone. Maybe they occured without my knowledge or when I wasn't guilded, I don't know. Or maybe it's all rumors (and I assure you, this kind of nonsense goes both ways).

I do not personally know any developers. The only person in CL who I have even heard personally knows any in fact does not, in my opinion (or he'd know a lot more than he does). Certain members have had interactions during beta testing in prior expansions, but such was not the case for EOF. I don't know of any more selective knowledge CL gained than did Dissolution or any other guild who didn't receive or take advantage of a guild beta invite.

I do share your concerns about inside information but I can assure you that I have gone into every EOF fight so far as blind as can be expected. Most of us have played this game for going on two years and have some reasonable expectations about new content and skill to react to it (particularly considering SOEs ideas on... innovation). My guild has performed well in adapting to and ultimately defeating encounters in a timely fashion, and I am proud to have been a part of that. And for this, I do take exception to the insinuation that CL is somehow being handheld through this expansion or that we are subpar for a high end raiding guild. I do not agree with such sentiment, and I don't think that our accomplishments and difficulties thus far in EOF provide any support to it.

bobstir

i fucking love it... i was wondering how you were gonna downplay our accomplishments. you just can't stand anyone beating you to anything can you? you're like a fucking 2 year old.

Actually, you're worse... you're like my mother-in-law. So fucking critical of everyone else, but fail to look at your own flaws. Do you know why people think you are good? It's not because they truly think you are... it's because you force it down everyones throat if they think otherwise.

NEWSFLASH: THIS GAME IS NOT VERY DIFFICULT.

You act like being king of the hill in this game is some great achievement... that you guys are the only ones that can do it. Everyone else needs dev help. Again... immature, pathetic, ridiculous.

The reality is that the only thing you are good at is spinning things (as i'm sure you'll somehow do to this post) to make it look like your shit don't stink.

People call you a whiny bitch... i see why. I prefer to simply call you a bitch.
How bout you try to shut the fuck up and prove you and your guilds' worth by actions and accomplishments rather than by being mouthy and degrading other guilds and theirs. It's still very early in the game... no real accomplishments have been attained as of yet. You still have time to stop being a douchebag. kthx.

Btw... i've always been curious. Do you do anything besides play eq2 and post on the forums? I can't imagine you having much time to do anything else considering how much time it seems you spend on them. Basically, what would you do if EQ2 shutdown? This is a serious question... please answer it if you feel ocmfortable doing so ;)

have a nice day... bitch.

bobstir.CL

p.s. sariah (fixed version) down.

Kurizo

Haha bobstir the fucking reject is still around? LOL you are one pathetic loser.

bobstir

kurizo #1 bobstir fanboi!

hello to you to.

Kurizo

fanboi, you wish.