Nexona - The Best Fight Ever in EQ2 - Page 3

Cracatoa · 02-12-2008, 09:57 AM

I wear no VP loot, and I've cleared it multiple times. Hell, most of my gear is quested.

Firza · 02-12-2008, 10:02 AM

and the rest of your raid?

How many pieces VP loot walk around there? Or is everything transmuted?

i applaud your questing greatness, and do not applaud SOE design in loot progression, but to completely disregard VP loot like its nothing is not correct.

Cracatoa · 02-12-2008, 10:03 AM

Maybe 10% - 20% of the gear in VP is worth wearing at this point.

Uyaem · 02-12-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Valtrexx

It's not that the gear is a huge upgrade, but the combination of small upgrades throughout your raid WILL make the difference.

What upgrades are you talking about?
Considering that most pieces in VP are worse than stuff you can get for the same equipment slots from somewhere else, your argument is null and void.

Just have a look at Phara'Dar's loot table for instance:

Signed of the Dar? Thuuga quest reward!
Linked Band of the Dragon Lords? Treasureseeker's Band!
Tailspike of PharaDar? WoCP/Group epics!
...
...

And there's worse items in there...
Whow, my 20 power regen hat will certainly cut it! *gasp*
ONOZ! It already rotted in my bag

Firza · 02-12-2008, 10:07 AM

see, it was not to painfull

And now immagine the up and coming guilds who are going into VP and meet a block at mob 2 . They are not wearing avatar gear....so to them probably 40-50 % of the gear is worth it.

And then you do realise that the 10-20% of wortwhile gear you have is actually a huge advantage to you compared to them.....and thats what this is about

Cracatoa · 02-12-2008, 10:08 AM

What "huge advantage" are you talking about?

Seriously, you need to review the gear. You can get just as well equipped from T1 and T2 as you can from VP.

Valtrexx · 02-12-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cracatoa

Maybe 10% - 20% of the gear in VP is worth wearing at this point.

You're obviously missing the point. Even skillwise, or guild stabilitywise, what makes SOE think that new guilds are going to be able to get into VP, when they were still progressing through T1 as your guild was clearing VP. Now you think because it's a challenge to your guild that has been clearing VP and already know the strats, that it is in line with how it should be?

Buff the 2nd wing of VP, Buff Phara, VP is supposed to be hard, but it doesnt make sense for the 2nd boss, or Leviathan for that matter, to be the hardest mobs in the game pre-contested / trak.

Firza · 02-12-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cracatoa

What "huge advantage" are you talking about?

Seriously, you need to review the gear. You can get just as well equipped from T1 and T2 as you can from VP.

errrr, epic for exemple? errr, set pieces that make epics even better?

Cracatoa · 02-12-2008, 10:11 AM

It makes perfectly good sense.

Did you raid EQ1 much? I'm not trying to patronize, just asking seriously.

Aaryonar was the cockblock to the North Wing of Temple of Veeshan. Once you got past Aaryonar, it was a huge loot pinata. The only mobs harder were Vulak Aerr and Lord Vyemm, and even they weren't a huge step over Aaryonar.

Fact is, if you want your Mythical Epics bad enough, you will work hard and you will get past Nexona. Once you do, you will be very well prepared for the rest of VP and even Avatars.

Cracatoa · 02-12-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Firza

errrr, epic for exemple? errr, set pieces that make epics even better?

What does that have to do with clearing VP pre-LU42, which is the entire debate here?