Argyuile

Thats the best strat since reduce the mob's hps to 0

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MonkSh!T

take her into the hall way leading to her room, burn down the cacoons as they pop but save your big dps abilitys. at 40% burn her ass down. dont play around with the adds, we usually mez/aoe fear them. as for your dps.... it should be much much higher, considering that most of your dps classes should easily hit atleast 2k each in legendary gear/epic

xioo

We break cocoons untill she reaches 40% then we mezz the adds and just heal through the cocoons at full burn.

She's dead before we have to many adds or cocooned ppl.

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Urbannaja

Why the hell would anyone even try to punish themselves by burning her slow after the adds come? You'd have to spend way too much time locking the adds down/killing them. It's just quicker and easier to burn her down. Even a raid full of bards and chanters could burn higher than 20k on that parse. I just don't get the point of banging your head against the wall until you break it instead of walking through the fucking door next to you.

Conqueror_Beld

I was merely pointing out a counter-argument that 40K DPS is NOT needed in order to win that fight. In fact, only half that is apparently needed. I'm glad that a gimp parse on a dead mob with no player deaths can be scutinized so heavily.

Slips

Not scrutinizing anything, simple fact your dps sucks.

Conqueror_Beld

Mine doesn't, but yeah. Our RW parse is pretty gimp sometimes.

Geekyone

Sounds like ours. I tell and tell people we need more. When I push the raid we 'might' sometimes get 30k RW. I'm pretty sure our group set ups are optimized, so I don't know what the deal is. Could it be that the raid is not all 80's, we do have some 78's in there.

I tell ppl to debuff 1st and often, pay attention and try, but maybe I'm telling this all on deaf ears.

Odii

If by this late in the expac your raid isn't full 80, i can almost guarantee you that their abilities and gear aren't up to snuff either.

The people that have offered suggestions in this thread, myself included, are comparing with lvl 80 toons, at least full ad3's+, at least some higher end quest gear and fabled raid (Pro Realm) gear at the LEAST. So take it with a grain of salt.

First thing i would do is tell people they can't raid till they hit 80 and get full ad 3's.

If the people aren't motivated enough, by themselves, to hit lvl 80... i find it fucking unimaginable that they are performing very well.

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Judist

Could ask em to turn off their TV when raiding. :P