Official ROK Progression List - Page 68

razieh · 05-31-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dakkota

IMHO I have to disagree though about the movement thing. I think its a valid skill to employ in a game where the general context is to just stand still and click buttons. Thats also why I think its been the most difficult one to overcome because it totally breaks the mold as to how other encounters feel.

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Originally Posted by razieh

If they increased the duration you have to move I think it would go a long way.

I don't think the movement thing is terrible its very easy to deal with, though like I said the time between movements could stand to gain like 4 seconds and it would be a lot better.

Gage · 05-31-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trumak

The margin for error is so small I have never felt better being a part of a kill.

People have said that about so many fights in EQ2 its kind of becoming run of the mill - omg we WW1st'd this its "the best encounter ever" and "I have never felt better being part of a kill".

Its like the shit atheletes say in post game interviews, its always the same.

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Originally Posted by dakkota

People bitched a long time about Eq2 being easy mode well, there you fuckers go. Avatar of Growth takes 100% attention and competence from all 24 players in raid. Isn't this what people asked for? After more first hand experience indeed the Growth adds are not end all. If you panic when adds spawn though it is end all. This is one of the first EQ2 encounters I feel takes actual skill and awareness. I never thought i'd state that Eq2 took skill but, this game has just proven to me it can step up and provide an actual challenge. Growth makes me revert back to thinking i'd relax a bit more mentally if I fired Quake 3 up again, impressive.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA.

Confirmed kills a mob no one else can and it is suddenly amazing, awesome, requires skill, dedication, Quake 3 uberness and is the second coming of difficult raiding in MMOs.

No way?

Besides, I never saw the need to devote so much attention and competence to Growth when we could wait 1 to 3 days, let it despawn and get the same loot off one of the other 9 avatars that are total ezmode. You guys can pull a Trumak and say raiding in EQ2 is all about the experience, but then you'd be full of shit. People raid in EQ2 for the loot, period. There is no other reason.

Slippery · 05-31-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

People have said that about so many fights in EQ2 its kind of becoming run of the mill - omg we WW1st'd this its "the best encounter ever" and "I have never felt better being part of a kill".

Its like the shit atheletes say in post game interviews, its always the same.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA.

Confirmed kills a mob no one else can and it is suddenly amazing, awesome, requires skill, dedication, Quake 3 uberness and is the second coming of difficult raiding in MMOs.

No way?

People have never made so many excuses as to why they didn't kill a mob for so long after someone else did, especially people who quit. Tangrin really is really easy.

Gage · 05-31-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Slippery

People have never made so many excuses as to why they didn't kill a mob for so long after someone else did, especially people who quit. Tangrin really is really easy.

I'm not making excuses.

Listen: Tangrin raped our MT group. Our MT got feared, our healers died, we lost. We got him to 75% I think three times but could never keep our MT group stable. Tangrin defeated CL. Happy? There are no excuses. We knew the entire strat and couldn't execute.

Also this is about Growth, and how Growth is 100x harder than Avatar of Flame, and they both drop the same loot.

This is about how EQ2 is experiencing a lot of player turnover and bragging rights are starting to matter less and less.

This isn't T6 when DMP finally died and it was a big deal. This is RoK.

Tangrin is so important to WW guilds that afaik still no other guild has killed him. Strike hasn't, NPU hasn't, Paradigm hasn't, we never did.

If he is so easy and has such ultra loot and is so important in the aspect of high end EQ2 raiding, why he is still alive on so many servers?

Because motherfuckers, unless they're wearing your guild tag, simply do not care.

We couldn't be assed to devote more than a couple hours a night to avatars that we struggled with because we all knew that in a couple days we'd get an ezmode one with the same chance for loot.

Avatars have never been a good scale of competition WW because they spawn randomly, so we didn't even have that sort of drive.

I'm not making excuses about Tangrin, again, to be clear. We pulled him for probably 20 hours total, and struggled, never won, he beat our ass. Happy?

People in your guild hate Tangrin to, so its not just every other guild except you. The difference is you have a few ppl driving your guild that want to kill everything and "beat" RoK. That in turn pushes the other ppl who could give a fuck about Tangrin.

My guess is that in most other guilds the % of fuck Tangrin outweighs the % of omg we have to beat Tangrin; it certainly did in CL.

dakkota · 05-31-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA.

Quake 3

Talk is cheap, 1v1.

lolumad?

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Should try it out, really fun game.

Snark · 05-31-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Couldn't, or didn't want to? I'm sure Growth was worth the stupidity it took even after the change from Thursday when you got it to 70% to Friday when it died, gratz on your 12th earring?

There is no reason to try to be good at EQ2 anymore, that is the problem. For me and our guild at least, glad to see you guys still enjoy raiding RoK.

When a scrub guild can kill Avatar of Flame and get the crit bp while a premiere guild finally kills Growth and gets the loot you got? What a joke. The only reason to bust ass on fucked up avatars is for bragging rights and the audience who cares about those kills is shrinking daily.

Yes, and I really hate they were designed this way. Though I think we can expect an inevitable growth nerf like we saw on flame to balance it out.

It was fun the first time, at least to prove to ourselves that we could do it.

I'm kindof amazed at all the stupid drama people are creating. I can't help but rememeber how when NPU/CL killed a mob first other guilds would claim raiding apathy (or pull the "This game sucks, who cares?" card - including myself!)

It's just getting too predictable.

Gage · 05-31-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Snark

It was fun the first time, at least to prove to ourselves that we could do it.

That right there is something I can respect. That is a good reason to bust ass on Growth.

Gratz to you Snark <3

razieh · 05-31-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Listen: Tangrin raped our MT group. Our MT got feared, our healers died, we lost. We got him to 75% I think three times but could never keep our MT group stable. Tangrin defeated CL. Happy? There are no excuses. We knew the entire strat and couldn't execute.

Really I herd you guys got it to 50% relatively easy and multiple days and it was bugged out like ours and never got fixed!

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Also this is about Growth, and how Growth is 100x harder than Avatar of Flame, and they both drop the same loot.

Growth is harder than Tangrin and certainly not worth killing more than once or twice. It is not an enjoyable encounter, it was fun to kill for a first time but I could do with out ever killing it again.

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Tangrin is so important to WW guilds that afaik still no other guild has killed him. Strike hasn't, NPU hasn't, Paradigm hasn't, we never did.

If he is so easy and has such ultra loot and is so important in the aspect of high end EQ2 raiding, why he is still alive on so many servers?

Because motherfuckers, unless they're wearing your guild tag, simply do not care.

I know more than one of those guilds are pulling Tangrin a few times a week so... Not that it really has any point to this argument.

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Originally Posted by Gaige

We couldn't be assed to devote more than a couple hours a night to avatars that we struggled with because we all knew that in a couple days we'd get an ezmode one with the same chance for loot.

Avatars have never been a good scale of competition WW because they spawn randomly, so we didn't even have that sort of drive.

I'm not making excuses about Tangrin, again, to be clear. We pulled him for probably 20 hours total, and struggled, never won, he beat our ass. Happy?

People in your guild hate Tangrin to, so its not just every other guild except you. The difference is you have a few ppl driving your guild that want to kill everything and "beat" RoK. That in turn pushes the other ppl who could give a fuck about Tangrin.

My guess is that in most other guilds the % of fuck Tangrin outweighs the % of omg we have to beat Tangrin; it certainly did in CL.

I'm in the position of i realize Tangrin is a stupid mob and hate it. But I want to kill it because I know we can and its not to difficult, like Snark said we had a five person two healer tank group and did just fine. I've said it before and I will repeat it again this entire argument is moronic who really cares, its not like you seriously believe the shit you spout anyways its just a game. In most cases I find your arguments amusing but lately you have been oh so very lucid friend. I think a part of you died when Cochy quit

Gage · 05-31-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by razieh

I think a part of you died when Cochy quit

True, but I heard he is going to play AoC with me!

razieh · 05-31-2008, 04:02 PM

That whore he didn't tell me that on MSN

I might have to pick it up and try and play casually with him.