Pitty

Maybe after 3 years i just dont give a fuck anymore

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Phreezin

Lots of conflicting statements about what causes Spirit slam. Who cares really as long as you know the three things that cause a wipe
1) Not harvesting shinies quick enough
2) Too much DPS on the named
3) Too little DPS on the named

Or is there something else I am missing?

Crychtonn - Bylar

1 shiny up = Nexona heals
2 shinies up = Spirit Slam
3 shinies up = Decimation - Game Over

High DPS on Nexona = Go read what Pinski already posted
Low DPS on Nexona = Just a longer fight


And the reason it can sometimes feel like you got two x2's in 5-10s is off of where you fight the mob. If you fight in the lower section and get a shiny up top the x2 takes time to path down to the raid. If that is followed by a shiny pop in the lower section that takes almost no time to path to the raid it feels like they come faster then they actually do.

Pinski

You know, we've had 2 shinies up multiple times, and Spirit Slam just does not go off. Its almost like it's some kind of check or something as well. It's very very odd. The 1 and 3 I'll agree with. But Low DPS has to be that gay ass power-drain that nexona does, or well something. Because that power-drain happens only during periods of EXTREMELY low-dps.

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jfantasy

How about the AE full power drain? I think we got it when low dps on nexona..

jfantasy

(I guess )
A shiny spawn too long (don't dig it) causes the Spirit Slam.

Crychtonn - Bylar

That's odd with the shinies cause I could swear everytime we ended up having two up we got hit with Spirit Slam. I forgot about the power drain and don't remember what they figured out on it. All I do on the fight is run around collecting shinies so I sort of stopped paying attention to how the fight worked outside of the shinies.

/mateo tells raid - Shiny up
/i run around the top
/i tell raid incoming from the northside or southside
/i zone out tell mateo says something again

It's an exceptionally exciting fight for me.

Brailyn

Well it seems people are at least responsive to figuring Spirit Slam out. The knockback (WAY BACK) can effect the heals/cures, but it isn't a raid wipe. Just really need to figure out what its from.

It's not on a timer, and it cannot be just .... hmmm now seems good.

Do guilds kill all 5 specimens on the pull still? Have you found some other way to go at those without making the fight rediculously long. I'm only asking because, could Slam be tied into those?

Davram

Spirit Slam might be associated with having an x2 up and spawned for too long before killing it. We've had two x2's in camp and accidentally killed the newer one first, and have had the Spirit Slam. We also tried a test pull or two just kiting the x2's without killing them - that brought Spirit Slam every time. Since then we've tried to keep track of what spawned first and give preference to the older one before the newer one. Never a problem after that.

edit: AE avoids seem to work on the spirit slam, but it hardly makes a difference anyways since it can easily be recovered from (and prevented with good dps and fast tracking of shinies).

firamas

Highlights:
-Too much sustained DPS on Nexona will be an unrecoverable raid wipe.
-Having the shinies up for too long will be an unrecoverable raid wipe.
-Keeping the x2's alive for too long will likely trigger a wipe for most guilds, but it's not an instant boot to the face like the above two situations.
-Falling below the minimum sustained DPS on Nexona causes the power drain, which is very easy to deal with, but try to prevent it.

The difficulty of the fight is balancing your assets such that everyone is putting their DPS/debuffs/control in the right place at the right time. It's not your typical tank-n-spank; not even close. It's chaotic, there's a lot going on, and communication is key. Be thankful that you have an asset as powerful as VOIP chat. =)

All in all, its a damn fun fight.