Just how many raiders are there? - Page 5

Mirdo · 03-09-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

But on the same "I just can't help myself" train of thought, the sheer majority of better gear is packed into raiding, so if you want the better gear, that is what you have to do.

If more people don't solo, it might not be because soloing sucks, but because the devs are doing a terrible job of making it fun. Rock-paper-scissors-ish buff dependency can be a huge factor with this.

That's just your one guild. I'm not afraid to see the final numbers.

That's not exactly true for the majority of raiders. From semi-hardcore down , many raiders wear a complete mix of solo quest rewards, raid and Mcrafted gear. The divide is much smaller than it used to be. Whether that's intentional or poor itemisation is anybodys guess.

icKx · 03-09-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

...the sheer majority of better gear is packed into raiding, so if you want the better gear, that is what you have to do.

Really? Do you read any of the threads you post in?

Ya know, like remember say... the ones where dozens and dozens of raiders voiced that this is clearly not the case anymore and they aren't happy about it, but you still championed non-raiders and supported the change?

Asshole.

Illuminator · 03-09-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by icKx

Ya know, like remember say... the ones where dozens and dozens of raiders voiced that this is clearly not the case anymore and they aren't happy about it, but you still championed non-raiders and supported the change?

Since your ignorance still leaves you awestruck by "raider celebrity", let me help you out here.

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There are 21 general item slots aside of food/drink and how many of those does an endgame raider fill with non-raid items? Is the sky falling if the answer is 5?

icKx · 03-09-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Since your ignorance still leaves you awestruck by "raider celebrity", let me help you out here.

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There are 21 general item slots aside of food/drink and how many of those does an endgame raider fill with non-raid items? Is the sky falling if the answer is 5?

Since your ignorance still leaves you clueless as to what gear players are using, let me help you out here. Eq players.

But Gaige does a nice job of illustrating this point here:
"Exactly I raid 6 days a week and I'm in an avatar killing guild, right now I have:

Blue Shiny collection helm
Heroic Instance BP
Mastercrafted gloves
Heroic Dungeon wrist
Solo quest ring
TWO solo quested earrings
Solo quest necklace
When this charm slot item comes out I'll have it too.
So in RoK so far, raiding since the 3rd week, 3rd guild WW to clear VP, two of the three killable avatars dead and 9 of my 21 items were acquired outside of raiding. To argue that this situation isn't fucked up is insanity."

Is the sky falling? Dunno.
But I do know you obviously don't read the threads you post in. Asshole.

Uyaem · 03-09-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Since your ignorance still leaves you awestruck by "raider celebrity", let me help you out here.

LootDB.com | EverQuest II item database with comprehensive mob and zone information

Xanadu Community

There are 21 general item slots aside of food/drink and how many of those does an endgame raider fill with non-raid items? Is the sky falling if the answer is 5?

Both pages unfortunately do not account for the rarity of drops in said raid zones. So all bullshit aside, for the average raider it's gonna be "10+ items for a very long time".

Gaige · 03-09-2008, 10:12 PM

I actually use 11 pieces of gear that are from outside of raiding.

Illuminator · 03-09-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by icKx

Asshole.

Ah you must be new to this debate stuff. Welcome.

Slippery · 03-09-2008, 11:48 PM

I wear 10 pieces of gear not from raids.

Orochan · 03-10-2008, 01:07 AM

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But on the same "I just can't help myself" train of thought, the sheer majority of better gear is packed into raiding, so if you want the better gear, that is what you have to do.

False.

Traxor · 03-10-2008, 04:38 AM

most raiders have double accounts

i have assassin, conj , monk plus alts spread over 2 accounts