Tethias

There are other class abilities that you can use to get around his aggro ditching, if you have them in the raid. Dirge, Coercer, Monk come to mind.

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Slips

Never had a need for this really...

What exactly is "priceless" on an encounter? The fact that if you didn't have that ability you would still be trying to beat it for the first time?

NitzHairspritz

Our first attempt at PR last Saturday was also successful. We died more than we probably should have to the Vyx guys, but we did take Doomcoil down. We had two guards and me (zerk) fighting for aggro at the door with everyone else at the back of the room. We probably had 5 or 6 deaths from AEs after the memwipe but we powered through it. We had good discipline with non-tanks getting aggro running to the tanks immediately. Doomcoil dropped the Serrator.

We got just owned by the NPC group. Seven tries and never even got close.

crayme

We did PR again last night and smoked 'em until the large npc encounter.

What we were attempting to do is I MT pull the encounter and have a Pally or Zerker rescue pull the scout out and OT it. Then while I maintain the whole group of mobs and Pally is OTing, MA is cycling through the named mobs, in order of Frogs > Healer > Fighter > Mage then scout.

The only prob is, we were having healer issues as I kept dropping within 1 min of the pull, just couldnt be kept up.

Strange thing is we did this last time and I didnt die until 5 mins or so into the fight when the ST would drop to the scout and it would go down from there.

Question I have is would optimal MT group for this be Guard(Me), Coercer, Dirge, Templar, Defiler, Fury/Warden?

The way things were last night, we only had 2 healers in MT group, Templar and Inquisitor

2 healers in group 2

1 healer in each group 3 & 4.

I think ideally would be best to have 3 in MT, 2 OT, 1 each for mage and scout groups.

Any thoughts?

Pinski

Lol you had 2 clerics in your MT group. That is your problem. You need to split by class-type. Have 2 of any 1 Cleric, 1 Shaman, and/or 1 Druid in your MT group, and then go from there. You're dying because you had 2 Clerics.

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Judist

MT should take the scout as he's the most dangerous. Put a swashy in the MT group (trade out the coercer) and have him stay on the scout with you. This will help keep it debuffed and a MT group swashy can even tank him when necessary.

Have your MA/OT take the tank mob, it doesn't hit that hard and he has jack for HP.

Your raid needs to melt the tank mob first. Literally kill him within 30seconds of the pull if you can. Next you'll wanna kill the healer mob which is just as easy. After that, you pretty much win.

The mage's buff is a 10% chance to deaggro when he's physically hit, so just hold him with group taunts until its hit turn to die.

Kill scout last.

We mezz the frogs simply because we can.

crayme

Actually, we had 1 cleric and 1 Shaman, no?

Last I checked, Templar is a cleric and Defiler is a Shaman. If I am wrong, please fire me!


oops I mistyped my first post listing the MT group, ok Im fired, MT group had Templar and Defiler, not Inquisitor. :p

Pinski

You said you had a Templar and an Inquisitor.

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crayme

You're right Pinski, I mistyped, was Defiler, not Inquisitor. Sorry lol

Maybe I'm dyslexic with my group members and targets and ordered my healers to heal the mobs instead of me?

Opeth

We usually just split them, kill the frogs (they die real fast) then progress though the named 1 at a time.

Targetting macros help, have everyone target through one person and then just mow them down.

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