Good Job Soe on SoH - Page 19

Alesis · 04-11-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 3devious

You just really don't understand at all. Of course they will. The issue is, why would anyone do anything else? Do you get it now?

8/5 day lockout timers?

I somehow dont see NPU, or Confirmed being like "Raid on!" and 45 minutes later "Ok, see you next week! Good session!"

Do you?

PS: I changed my signature, no need to edit shit from my posts to make jokes about me anymore, Ill do it for you. Thats how little I give a fuck.

Rokkual · 04-11-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

That's not how you compare loot. You do not compare slot by slot. You compare by their relative "item value." The item value or the helm is insanely high, and in fact is higher than the belt's item value. While both items are the best for their slot, the helm has a much higher value, yet comes from a mob that is on par for a T1 zone, thus making you wonder huh?

As much as the whole iLvl system in WoW can be kind of crappy, some form of iLvl standardization needs to be looked into and for raid mobs to be better tested to determine how high of an iLvl they have on their loot table, and also allow for higher iLvls for extremely rare EXTRA dropped items.

I do see your point in comparing relatvie item value. However, people are basically suggesting that they no longer need to clear vp now that SoH has loot on par with that zone. While some items may be on par with VP loot, those items are mostly for different slots and seem to be filling gaps in raid itemization. That being said, there is still plenty of reason for people to clear vp, because many will still be needing certain gear from that zone. I just think people are exaggerating a bit without really comparing, and thinking of why they have reason to still kill the rest of T4.

Uyaem · 04-11-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Your accomplishments are lessened by this loot? Fuck you.
Your kills are cheapened by this loot?: Fuck you.
You want more content harder than Trak cause you beat it? Fuck you.

No, no and maybe.
Difficulty needs to match reward. RETARD.
You didn't start Doom with the BFG9000, you shouldn't in EQ2 either.
You want no difficulty, reward, and pay 15 bucks a month. That's called SHOPPING not PLAYING.

Alesis · 04-11-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Woah, woah, woah. Shard of Hate wasn't made for high-end raiders??????

2 New Zones Coming prior Rise of Kunark!!! Shard of Fear / Shard of Hate «

Ahmm, END GAME RAID ZONE. END GAME RAID ZONE. The first 4 named are not END GAME RAID ZONE material.

Maybe you define END GAME by your own set of standards, and not the standards set forth by SOE. I would think logic would dictate end game would mean end game for the majority of the population, not the .05% that raid 7 days a week.

/Shrug.

Gaige · 04-11-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

SOE didnt cater to you on THIS ONE ZONE. Grow up, QQ and fuck off.

THIS ONE ZONE and Protector's Realm, Thuuga, Pawbuster, Severilious, Trakasaurus Rex, the Dominus', Kor Sha, Venril Sathir, and Leviathan.

So, hardcore raiders get VP, Trak, Tangrin and the Avatars?

There is no reason to add another zone that isn't top tier difficulty, there is already an abundance of content for casual 2 to 3 day a week raiders like yourself. So much, in fact, I doubt you can do it all in the 2 to 3 days a week you raid anyway.

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Originally Posted by Alesis

not the .05% that raid 7 days a week.

BTW, per SOE themselves, way more than .05% of the population raid 7 days a week. Just saying.

Rokkual · 04-11-2008, 01:34 PM

Shit, anyone can make a blog and say wtf ever they want, that doesnt make it fact.

Pinski · 04-11-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Maybe you define END GAME by your own set of standards, and not the standards set forth by SOE. I would think logic would dictate end game would mean end game for the majority of the population, not the .05% that raid 7 days a week.

/Shrug.

When people say END GAME they mean the END of progression. Had they just said SoH is another raid zone, then fine whatever, but adding the words END GAME means that they are the END of progression. Sorry you don't understand that. T1 is not end game, T2 is not end game, T3 is not end game. VP is barely end game, Trak, Avatars, and Tangrin are END GAME.

Kall · 04-11-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravanos

and I "implied" that where? oh thats right i didn't apparently your massive e-peen blocked your view of my post as well. what i am actually saying is that just because a raid zone is not ONLY directed at the uber elite raid guilds ... doesn't mean its bad or shitty.

No, but when it's itemized as the hardest zone in the game it certainly does.

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Originally Posted by Alesis

You guys say progression is fucked, and blah blah blah, but your not considering who its fucked for. Progression is fucked for uber hardcore raiders? Fuck em, theyre the minority by far. My guild? We seem to be muscling thru and learning the encounters at a proggressive rate, on the 2-3 nights a week we manage to get a force together, but we arent in VP yet. You guys where in VP 3 minutes after ROK went live, because of your obvious superior gaming skills, and it had nothing to do with the fact that you had guildies/friends beta raiding the expansion before release, are dripping with avatar loots, and then when it went live you ground to 80 in 3 days, cleared VP 11 minutes later, and once NPU leaked the Trakanon strat put him on farm status. That about sums it up right?

You suck at this game. Get over it.

If gear and time is the only difference between casual and hardcore guilds, why do you continue to ask for help to improve your play in this thread since according to your post if your guild had the same gear as my guild you could clear SoH with no problems.

kenman · 04-11-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

I would think logic would dictate end game would mean end game for the majority of the population, not the .05% that raid 7 days a week.

I admit I'm out of the loop on RoK raid content, but is there even enough fucking content to raid 7 days a week? When I played there was hardly enough for 3-4 days and people still whined about how you have to be zomg hardcore with no life whatsoever to do that 2 hour long MMIS raid.

And let me see. Hey Pinski, how long does it take you guys to kill Trakanon from zonein?

Gaige · 04-11-2008, 01:39 PM

Kall, his dps obviously sucks because he isn't dripping avatar gear!