Johnathon

I'm going to go with forced targeting during the switch.

Sploit IMO.

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Apollodon

mem wipping the mob?

pally + dot class = always get agro

Frogweiser

Okay did SOH last night and didn't pay much attention to master P, but we basically burned him in just over a minute or two, did they do something to him in the past updates?

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Sparks

They changed his stoneskin proc from 4% for 5 seconds to 1% for 2 seconds.

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Frogweiser

Lawl, okay thats fucking funny.

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Cexi

Hmm, that explains why he died so fast last night.

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Krista

For those of you who are like me and want to know everything there is to know about a mob, and it's fight, it sucks to be you, because I don't.

However, I can tell you quite a bit about the fight, since even with the proper strategy, it is the execution that makes or breaks the fight.

So, to start, let's start with what the patch notes said for P'Tasa:
-He will no longer be confused by pet pulls.
-He will no longer consider fighters if they have their auto-attack off.

Before the patch, pet pulling wiped Master P's script, making him an easy tank and spank fight, just ridiculously long.

Keep the auto-attack note in your mind for later.

Now to look at what Master P actually says as you fight him.

On Pull (I don't remember exactly what he says, so bear with me):
-IF a fighter pulls: "... I will save this fighter for another time..."
-IF a non-fighter pulls: "With no fighters to aid you, your cause is lost!"

When a fighter pulls, he talks about how he shouldn't have to worry about that fighter that pulled, and will target at random throughout the raid for another target.

If you pull without a fighter, you get the above message, and then get the curse, shortly after. Reason being is because all the fighters in the raid have their auto-attack turned off (how many people do you know turn on auto-attack before a pull?).

During the Fight:
-"You will heed my commands, spiteful cur!"
-"Enough of your stealthy attempts to divert me!"
-"It's time to switch to a softer target, because this fighter just won't die!"
-"With no fighters to aid you, your cause is lost!"
-"You again! I thought ... it's time to end this, NOW!"

The spiteful cur message means he just charmed a random target in your raid (usually a healer). A simple cure fixes that.

Stealthy attempts is his dislike for scouts, like D'Somni's dislike for mages ("Your arcane trickery has earned you death!"), and Demetrius's dislike for priests ("You will not aid my enemies!"). Although, for some reason, he never seems to target a scout, when this happens, but it doesn't do much, and can be ignored.

"...switch to a softer target..." means that he's been actively on a single fighter for a period of time, and will now target a non-fighter class, and start pounding on them (for some reason, Necros seem to always be the target /shrug). NOTE THIS FOR THE NEXT EXPLANATION.

"You again..." This means that he has targetted the fighter that he turned away from in the previous emote, and is now going to curse your raid. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LIVE THROUGH THE CURSE (my guild got it twice, and still managed to kill him). Here's a helpful hint that will help prevent the previous tank from taking agro again. When the tank that was tanking him loses agro, because he says it's time to switch, have that tank, and ONLY that tank, TURN OFF THEIR AUTO-ATTACK. This will make P'Tasa forget him as a fighter, and will also put that fighter out of combat (weapons away and everything). When the next tank in the rotation picks P'Tasa up, the original tank now MUST turn back on his auto-attack, to make sure there's always a fighter engaged in the raid, and to possibly pick up P'Tasa when he switches again. If all fighters have their auto-attack off, he considers the raid to lack fighters, and curses. If all fighters die, this happens as well. The only backfire to the tank switching is if P'Tasa instantly kills whoever he switches to (i.e. not-well-geared player, or partially hurt from some recent damage), he has the possibility of switching back to the previous tank in less than a second, which is not enough time for anyone to turn off their auto-attack.

A few things to note:
-I'm not sure of the outcome of a scout tank on P'Tasa, but in my own opinion, it might prevent the whole having to switch between fighters script... maybe...
-If you have any less than 3 fighters in your raid, in SoH, you're already doing something wrong when you zone in. The Sisters REQUIRE all 3 architypes of fighters (Warriors, Brawlers, and Crusaders), otherwise they are impossible (unless you have Mythicals, and super raid gear, but even then, it may not be possible).
-Your best bet for fighter switching is use 2 fighters, and bounce between them. If that isn't working, try a rotation of 3 or 4 fighters.

If you have more than 4 fighters in your raid, you may want to consider your raid makeup, lol, but there's nothing against it (it'll definitely make the sister's intersting).


Well, that's about all I have, unfortunately.

One big hint of advice is, if you're killing him with the strat you have now, why change it?

Maybe this will help people kill him, maybe it won't, either way, it's some info for your minds, so, enjoy.

Eminaria

Sisters are very much killable without 3 fighters... a scout or a random mage can tank it with decent gear and healers who are awake.

Krista

I can see how that's possible, but you have to have boatloads of gear for whoever may be tanking them, because getting hit for over half our health on an auto-attack and then for 70% of your health (before mitigation effects) at the same time seems a bit tricky.

But hey, if it works for you, then go for it.

Gardawg

If you have tanks that are slow to react or dps that over does it, try this.

Have the raid bunch up (we use the corner between the stairs and the wall of the building thats in front of his hot dog stand).

Have the tanks spread out in an arc about 15-20 meters away from the raid (so swashy's with reach cant peel). Tell them not to use hate position abilities so they dont accidentally do it durring a blur.

Healers heal through named.

When the mob blurs off the tank, he has a very visual indicator that he needs to turn auto attack off and also has plenty of time to do it.

Bunched up squishys (usually me (brig) or a swashy) tank the mob until it decides to pick a new tank. This mob hits like a puss so there is no reason why healers cant keep up anyone that has the mob on them.

Once mob has picked a new tank and ran out to them, the raid goes back to ranged dps and the first tank can turn auto attack back on.

Doing it this way we never see the curse and no one ever dies.


This thread has already described how his script works very thoroughly. Its all about how you use that information based on your raids strengths and weaknesses. We have tanks that are slow to turn off auto attack and scouts that crush on the parse and peel. This method fixes both issues for us.

Gull