Contested... Skill Vs Playtimes - Page 10

Pinski · 05-08-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Alesis

You compete with the guys who design the game, and who script it so that it has a definitive way to be beaten? Thats awesome, now I understand what competition means lol. I mean, they design them TO be beaten, so competing against them is....fuck it, my head hurts now.

They don't design them to be beaten most of the time.

Slippery · 05-08-2008, 11:16 AM

Refuses to address the fallacy in his own statements and back it up with anything worth anything. Nothing like someone trying to talk about something they understand no part of.

Alesis · 05-08-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

They don't design them to be beaten most of the time.

They dont design them to be beaten? So they dont have holes in the script designed to let you work thru to a definitive conclusion? They actually design unbeatable mobs?

Wow, I had no idea, apparently I have been wrong all along. Here I was thinking NPU got outed with GM strats on how to beat mobs, and it turns out it was just some suggested holes they thought might be in the script that might be worked thru. And once someone beats the mob, I notice theyre quick to change the script to fix the obvious holes genrated in your ACT report so that its unbeatable again.

And here i thought contested meant you actually had to compete over something.

Fuck yeah, Ive been enlightened, now I know what competition is, and how you guys are awesome cause you can beat mobs designed to never be killed at all. Finally, enlightenment. Its very satisfying.

Lamil · 05-08-2008, 11:33 AM

Because trak was beatable.

Krontak · 05-08-2008, 11:34 AM

So, I probably missed it but, why didn't Confirmed move to a server where they would have competition? Lag?

Fomka · 05-08-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Or, Xanadu took over and Defiant never had a chance to pull because Xanadu took over?

To sum it up - yes.
And to answer Alesis, yes Defiant lost some players etc, but thats only excuses. If you suck - you suck, doesnt matter why.

Uyaem · 05-08-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paikis

I think it's funny how you call these mobs contested... cos they sure as fuck are NOT contested. Can anyone run up and kill you while you're fighting them? No. Can a mid-teens healer run up and stun/mez/fear half your raid with a single spell? No. Can ANYONE run up and miracle charm your tank then evac? Nope again.

So would you also say because tennis players don't all play on the same court, they are not competing?
Even better, take snooker or some shit. You can't tackle the player whose move it is. So by your logic that is not competition then? I mean, they're both trying to win and all....

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Originally Posted by Alesis

Defiant dominated a year ago, then stopped pulling, you took over. Gotcha.

So what you are saying is, your whole argument collapsed ten threads ago and you need to assume and make up shit in order to keep going. It's called being in denial. Your constant desire to wear the underdog suit, your choice of wording ("the overlords", dear me...), your ignorance of posts where you were proven wrong, ...

You keep telling "facts" about other people, like me being a jobless no-lifer (because after all, if you raid contested, there's no way you could not be!). These people tell you they have a job, and families... but you are either too daft or too thick-skulled to acknowledge that they know more about themselves than you.
A man who cannot be convinced by reality is in denial. You are in denial.

Widem · 05-08-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Krontak

So, I probably missed it but, why didn't Confirmed move to a server where they would have competition? Lag?

This is a lose/lose argument.

You narrow a server choice to what maybe 3 servers, all with differing economies which are also a huge selling point. Once the competitive server choice is made you have the "You only picked NPU b/c you knew they could only kill stuff b/c of dev help and were scared of CL...or the You only went to compete with CL b/c you knew npu had been doing good in this expansion" This argument is fucing stupid.

Im sorry that we have put together a force so superior to most guilds that people get pissed b/c of competition.

In actuality, there is so little contested comp even in this game it makes it a moot point. We are talking 2 contested spawns where only 1 has even been beaten only by us.

There isnt enough contested content to justify an xfer based on contested competition.

rukkis · 05-08-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Uyaem

So would you also say because tennis players don't all play on the same court, they are not competing?
Even better, take snooker or some shit. You can't tackle the player whose move it is. So by your logic that is not competition then? I mean, they're both trying to win and all....

I like the Hot Dog Eating Contest which is obviously not a real contest since that Japanese guy couldnt judo-chop Joey Chestnut in the neck.

Krontak · 05-08-2008, 11:53 AM

I was serious about the lag. Any more than a couple guilds at a contested just adds to one of the reason why this game sucks ass so bad. Heck, even in instances lag is fucking stupid at times.