MysidiaDrakkenbane

You can't since the set gear pieces that drop from the instances are comparable to the x4 raids. Until they fix their itemization (sp?) problem, you can't really judge anything on progression except knowing that you took down the mob.

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Flaeme

Talking on the SoE boards trying to make a point is like trying to break down a reinforced concrete wall with a rusty spoon. I don't know why I'm even bothering.. /sigh

Anyway, I'm ok with itemization overall. Sure some things could use some work but there's definately a lot of improvement over KoS so I think they might have gotten the point somewhere. The change to class gear kinda undoes that though, wtf are they thinking?

And yea, I don't think there are many serious raiders in high end guilds that aren't fully mastered or at least 3 or 4 masters away from that. It's become standard pretty much, even for a lot of non-raiders being relatively close to being fully mastered isn't that strange anymore.

Stork/Atris

this is no where near as good as KoS, KoS as labs < DT right now EH = DT in my eyes, and Inner Sanctum is the same difficulty as labs, but they drop the same loot, jeez, i sure would like to get a Bazkul, Breath of the Destroyer, Mantle of the Clairvoyant... all off FUCKING LORD VYEMM... thats whats happening right now.

Henladar Bloodheart

You are going overboard here.

Is the thought behind it fucked up? Ya.

Is the whole thing a big deal? no.. for the most part set shoulders sucks. No wait i guess 34 sta and 25 agl on Assassin shoulders is as uber as it gets!

Just calm the fuck down.

Oopo

Pretty sure I made a post on eq2players about these trash nameds dropping set gear. Everyone seemed to like the idea minus everyone in my guild and Psykil. Even someone from second dawn and someone from FoH agreed with set gear being dropped on these nameds which surprised the fuck outta me (I'd look up who but really don't care enough). Anyway, it turned into a "omg disso complains and whines about everthing" thread and it got locked. Whatever, set gear is now going to be a fucking minimum standard now just like relic was.

Henladar Bloodheart

I dont see how shoulders droping off these named is gonna ruin progression. Thats what ive seen off them.. i think i was told some wrists do. Ya pickup raids can kill the two yellows in here but im doubtful they could kill the oranges (The ae at the end and their DPS normally sucking) so they get 2 chances a week to get O.K. gear and maybe 4 chances at best.

Do i support the change? no

Does it really fucking matter that much? no

Draydin

Shoulders, gloves, boots, wrists, regardless. It fucks the hell out of progression, in fact it takes progression into a back alley, butters up the ol' corn hole and goes to fucking town.

Having the nameds in MMIS drop set armor is a huge fucking slap in the face to the guilds who've been working to actuall beat the top tier instance bosses. Why the fuck should Enyeti drop shoulders when you basically wave your hands at him until he falls down?

Did you know the Tender of the Seedlings used to be the mob to kill if you wanted set shoulders? Are you trying to fucking tell me that Enyeti is as fucking hard as the fucking Tender?

This change needs to be fixed soon, either the nameds in MMIS need to be beefed the fuck up or they need to take the set pieces off until such time that they can properly balance the zone.

MMIS is supposed to be the Deathtoll of EoF, not fucking labs.

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Titanite

I'm sure there won't be many people that agree with this sentiment, but while it is def fucked that all the named in MIS are dropping set pieces, at least they have done away with the notion of class gear dropping off trash. How many guilds ran daily "trash runs" in labs picking up the inevitable 5-10 pieces of relic gear. I can understand the frustration in killing Tender to get the arms and then having some PU raid linking the exact same shoulders having dropped off the first named in MIS but at least the balance is better than KOS.

Oopo

I went on a few trash runs on an alt and never did I see 5-10 pieces. We usually got 2 at most and several times none. A pickup raid should average about 3 set pieces in MIS per run now. And relic often times wasn't the best instanced loot in kos. Set gear is the best instanced loot in EoF. It is bullshit but I can see why there's support for it since so many guilds can't get any set loot any other way.

Stork/Atris

u guys that support this are fucking retards... The fact that why even go to EH to kill tender when we can run thu IS in 2.5 hrs


why kill sariah when we can go to IS in 2.5 hrs...

a 75X4 should not drop same loot as a 2 grpable yellow con mob. and realise this idiots.... it goes like this. Set --> Contested loot, there is nothing in between.... OMG the shit off of Shredder, Othysis, its all so good!