All i have to say is ... ITS ABOUT TIME ... i dont know about anyone else but when a new expansion comes out with only 4 new end tier raids and u can complete 3 of those 4 in under 3 hours (CWM FTH MIS) theres a HUGE problem... about the comment that was made on progression u are 100 percent right ... when a brand new expansion comes out the end game raids of that expansion should not be easier then the previous expansion or adventure pack's raiding..... thats just dumb ....I for one dont understand why people that throw out the "im casual" line expect to be able to raid all the new end tier raids ... they for some reason expect to be exempt from following the same progression that all the "hardcore" raiders had to go threw ... DOf - KOS - TFD ... the reason why raids have a progression and SHOULD be required to go threw is a simple reason ... so u as a player can learn to work with 23 other people in all kinds of different situations to defeat an encounter .... and when someone says hey im casual this change is stupid i should be able to just jump right into the "supposedly" 2nd hardest raid zone in the game and farm it makes me dumbfounded