Zone wide DPS - Page 15

Vocal · 12-13-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizzel

were all impressed with ur leet 900 dps... not... your still not getting my point.. dirges are utility and they have other jobs. 200 dps for a dirge is realy low. but a ZONE WIDE parse of like 400-600 is perfectly decent. If a dirge made a zone wide parse of 900 its because they didnt have to rez anyone, and they were going all out dps on every single fight and even if they were, like u said, its impossible to do 900 or so on every fight, Your point was u can do 900 on some encounters.. im sorry if this is hard for you to understand but in order to get a zone wide parse of 900 you would have to do that much dps or more on every single fight.. the fights where you as a dirge have to do other things i imagine your dps goes down into the 600 range or lower depending on the encounter.. still not getting it?

Well I'm glad you switched to your berserker because obviously you don't understand how to play a dirge. You also never read what I fucking said. Your point is something I have understood since I started my dirge: I am utility, I rez, I debuff. However, given my situation in a raid where people are smart enough to control aggro, I rarely have to rez. Why would I not debuff? Not only do they help the other people in the raid, thus making myself utility, it also helps my DPS. You're also stating things that I never said. Obviously, you're a fucking moron. I parse higher than my zonewides on some fights; I also parse lower than my zonewides on some fights. Try and understand, that the combination of the two makes my zonewide DPS what it is. You're really making yourself look like a dipshit that probably can't even parse as a berserker.

Cupcake · 12-13-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizzel

im sorry if this is hard for you to understand but in order to get a zone wide parse of 900 you would have to do that much dps or more on every single fight..

Comedy gold, right here. You failed math didn't you, Rizzel?

Usildor · 12-13-2006, 08:31 PM

Wow....fucking awesome. Rizz....please don't make babies.

Fumtik Muffinbane · 12-13-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaer

I merely stated that zone wide DPS wasn't everything, if your guild can't step up on difficult encounters then who gives a shit what your DPS can average zone wide.

We're vearing off of the new subject of this post, let's stick to Skaer being a complete fucking moron...

Skaer,

Find me a guild that can out DPS a known raiding guild and can't kill a majority of EoF content that has already been killed. DPS doesn't make a guild, but if a guild doesn't suck, they will do decent DPS. That's just a fact of the game. While you're at it, find me a parse on a contested that any guild has bragged about, excluding the total encounter time.

If I'm going to say that "zomg my guild > your guild = my penis > your penis" then I have to have something to compare between the two guilds. For the sake of argument, let's say that both of our guilds can kill matron (a contested, since you have your heart set on contested for some stupid reason). The amount of DPS each person does on that fight, especially, isn't that big of a deal. The amount of time that my guild takes to kill her in comparison to your guild, would be the only comparison worth drawing. So if my guild can kill her in 7 minutes and your guild can kill her in 12 minutes than we could say, solely based off of this hypothetical comparison, that "zomg my guild > your guild."

Now, before you get your panties in a wad, read this post over, take 10 minutes to let it soak in, then miserably fail at your attempt to reply.

Thanks in advance

Cochy · 12-14-2006, 12:04 AM

Rizzel · 12-14-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cupcake

Comedy gold, right here. You failed math didn't you, Rizzel?

i didnt fail math.. a zone wide parse is an average of your dps the entire night.. you cant get an average of 900 without doing that ammount of dps most of the night... you parse 800 one fight.. you parse 950 another.. you parse 700 on one.. 900 another ect ect ect and it eventualy averages to 900for the entire zone..... do i need to draw a picture for u to understand that?is that hard to comprehend? if a dirge did 600 dps on most fights.. and did 900 a couple of times.. his zone wide parse would be nowhere near 900. i dont know why u find that hard to understand...

and vocal.. i could do 900-1k dps on some encounters on my dirge.. pre eof, but my zone parses were never near that ammount , why? cause dirges do other shit than dps every single fight... not understand how to play my dirge? its pretty easy.. u put ur buffs up... u debuff mobs.. u rez people.. and when ur not doing that shit u basicaly spam cast ur damage spells to attempt to make a parse.. u bid on gear that has procs on it that would be better for the wizard in ur guild... and u pretend like ur uber.. **rolls eyes** as for parsing on my berserker.. im sure cochy will post more parses when im there and u can see for urself.

Kall · 12-14-2006, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizzel

i could do 900-1k dps on some encounters on my dirge.. pre eof, but my zone parses were never near that ammount , why? cause dirges do other shit than dps every single fight

Mine were, see post #2 in this thread.

Also, reread Vocal's last post because apparently you still missed his point.

Rizzel · 12-14-2006, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalll

Mine were, see post #2 in this thread.

Also, reread Vocal's last post because apparently you still missed his point.

i didnt miss any point.. he keeps trying to say im a moron when basicaly hes saying the same thing i am. he agrees dirges are utility, but still seems to think the only way u can measure their skill is their dps. hes said himself u cant do 900 dps every single fight. especialy when as a dirge you have other duties..

MY ORGINAL point is... if its an assasin u can say hey that guy sucks.. cause his zone wide parse was low... if a dirges parse is low u cant neccecarily say he sucks... I know im not the only person to ever play a dirge who some nights didnt even try to dps , because i didnt make the parse list. when ur lowest person on the list is like 1500 or somthing, ur not gonna make the parse as a dirge. that doesnt mean i still didnt cast cob every minute , and rezzed people right away or kept my debuffs up. all of those things are much bigger assets to a raiding guild than a dirge that does a little bit of dps.

personaly i dont know why he continues to argue.. I agree a good dirge can cast their debuffs, and dps well at the same time.. all im saying, like i originaly said when he chimed in saying i as a moron... is i wouldnt expect a dirge to parse high if they had to rez people and do other things in a fight or like a lot of dirges do somtimes.. just not care about dps...

Vocal · 12-14-2006, 03:41 AM

And I thought your English couldn't possibly get any worse. I find a hard time following that bullshit you just posted.

Anyways, I'm not going to continue to show how much of an idiot you are. You obviously didn't understand what I was saying. That's quite evident by your horrible attempt at replying to what I had said.

Just one thing...this parse was posted and I had one question

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Originally Posted by Cochy

Where are you at? Couldn't even hit 700 as a Berserker?

Rizzel · 12-14-2006, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vocal

And I thought your English couldn't possibly get any worse. I find a hard time following that bullshit you just posted.

Anyways, I'm not going to continue to show how much of an idiot you are. You obviously didn't understand what I was saying. That's quite evident by your horrible attempt at replying to what I had said.

Just one thing...this parse was posted and I had one question

Where are you at? Couldn't even hit 700 as a Berserker?

wasnt on the raid genious, id be near the top tho cause i can hit 1.8-2k on most of the fights in HoS as long as i have a dirge and dont die or somthing.. (which actualy happens a lot, but im a zerker and i dont get dehate unless i wanted to bug our coercer or somthing) even without a dirge its still in the 1.5 range

you saying you cant or dont want to read my post is basicaly you dodging the fact that your whole arguement is a waste of time.. the whole thing is about you trying to feel like ur uber or somthing. i guess ur done though.