Henladar Bloodheart

Basically... the dude has it set up on the opposite of the normal way.

Way 1 - Your DPS starts getting counted when you start doing DPS. This way a wizard could cast Ice Nova before a mob dies... do only a second worth of damage and his ZW would show up as how ever much that ice nova did.

Way 2 - DPS starts getting counted when tank pulls.

They have done it way 1 which beefs up the numbers.

Sinful | Dmg 2579324 | Dps 2180 // Swings 3245 / MCrits 581 /
Brigand | Dmg 2175753 | Dps 1839 // Swings 3564 / MCrits 310 / Dmg Taken 20804
Brigand | Dmg 1951669 | Dps 1649 // Swings 2770 / MCrits 269 / Dmg Taken 15939
Swash | Dmg 1892053 | Dps 1599// Swings 3469 / MCrits 178 / Dmg Taken 9619
Conj | Dmg 1666543 | Dps 1408// Swings 3531 / MCrits 513 / Dmg Taken 6353
Assassin | Dmg 1644455 | Dps 1390// Swings 2240 / MCrits 529 / Dmg Taken 2519

What parse for top 6 should REALLY be.

Dijitalis

Ah yeah I see, ty for clearing it up for le parse nub.

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Valthor

Actually its set-up to get a more accurate reading of what a persons actual DPS is.

Look at A persons actual DPS instead of EXT DPS and give a breakdown of the time they were in combat. I want to see what people were doing DPS wise not broken down and formulated by time as calculated from the moment of the first taunt/bowshot.

Time Breakdown for each person
Total Damage Breakdown(Sorted by Total Damage)
DPS

Ext. DPS starts everyones time when each combat starts and doesnt take into account giving the tank a couple seconds for pulling the mobs and getting them set etc before people start unloading.

17:44 Brigand | Dmg 2175753 | Dps 2044.88 // Swings 3564 / MCrits 310 / Dmg Taken 20804
15:56 Brigand | Dmg 1951669 | Dps 2041.50 // Swings 2770 / MCrits 269 / Dmg Taken 15939

Brigand | Dmg 2175753 | Dps 1839 // Swings 3564 / MCrits 310 / Dmg Taken 20804
Brigand | Dmg 1951669 | Dps 1649 // Swings 2770 / MCrits 269 / Dmg Taken 15939

For Instance Above Parse almost Identical Numbers DPS wise, I see the time breakdown and can say ok maybe this person took an AFK while we were fighting or was dead more.

Broken down by the second version Im basically saying ok WTF why is this persons DPS 200 less than the other persons, when I could easily look at the other sort and it would be apparent.

Valthor

Right but I would see that he was only in combat for X time compared to everyone else. Its just a preference.

Pinski

Except, DPS is easily manipulated. Whereas Extended DPS is not. Plus who the fuck cares about what a person's "true" DPS is, when matters is their DPS for the entirety of the raid. It shows when somebody is AFK and skipping every other encounter. I could care less if somebody could get 2k "true" DPS, if they can't even get 1k extended DPS. Fact is, Extended DPS is the only DPS you should look at, because the rest can be manipulated so easily that there's no point in looking at it.

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Arangor

The fight starts when the fight starts, not when someone decides to start fighting. As soon as the mob is pulled, the fight begins, not when I wait to unload all my big damage attacks and look like a hero.

Valthor

KK so throw a miracle shot at one of the archers in DT and wait for him to path down to the tunnel if you pull him there. Combat starts when you throw the miracle shot then you have to wait for 25 seconds For the mob to reach the raid. Fuck Ext DPS. I dont want to see that shit.

And honestly it doesnt matter how you want to read individual parses the Zonewide is going to come out the same either way.

Valthor

You're missing the point. You can see that anyways with the way my parse is sorted. This is a dumb fucking arguement.

If you are going to sort it that way Hen it should read

Sinful | Dmg 2579324 | Ext.Dps 2180 // Swings 3245 / MCrits 581 /
Brigand | Dmg 2175753 | Ext. Dps 1839 // Swings 3564 / MCrits 310 / Dmg Taken 20804
Brigand | Dmg 1951669 | Ext. Dps 1649 // Swings 2770 / MCrits 269 / Dmg Taken 15939
Swash | Dmg 1892053 | Ext. Dps 1599// Swings 3469 / MCrits 178 / Dmg Taken 9619
Conj | Dmg 1666543 | Ext. Dps 1408// Swings 3531 / MCrits 513 / Dmg Taken 6353
Assassin | Dmg 1644455 | Ext. Dps 1390// Swings 2240 / MCrits 529 / Dmg Taken 2519


Not DPS

Henladar Bloodheart

18:19 Sinful | Dmg 2579324 | Dps 2346.97 // Swings 3245 / MCrits 581 / Dmg Taken 17278
17:44 Brigand | Dmg 2175753 | Dps 2044.88 // Swings 3564 / MCrits 310 / Dmg Taken 20804
15:56 Brigand | Dmg 1951669 | Dps 2041.50 // Swings 2770 / MCrits 269 / Dmg Taken 15939
17:53 Swash | Dmg 1892053 | Dps 1763.33 // Swings 3469 / MCrits 178 / Dmg Taken 9619
17:04 Conj | Dmg 1666543 | Dps 1627.48 // Swings 3531 / MCrits 513 / Dmg Taken 6353
17:46 Assassin | Dmg 1644455 | Dps 1542.64 // Swings 2240 / MCrits 529 / Dmg Taken 2519




Sinful | Dmg 2579324 | Ext.Dps 2180 // Swings 3245 / MCrits 581 /
Brigand | Dmg 2175753 | Ext. Dps 1839 // Swings 3564 / MCrits 310 / Dmg Taken 20804
Brigand | Dmg 1951669 | Ext. Dps 1649 // Swings 2770 / MCrits 269 / Dmg Taken 15939
Swash | Dmg 1892053 | Ext. Dps 1599// Swings 3469 / MCrits 178 / Dmg Taken 9619
Conj | Dmg 1666543 | Ext. Dps 1408// Swings 3531 / MCrits 513 / Dmg Taken 6353
Assassin | Dmg 1644455 | Ext. Dps 1390// Swings 2240 / MCrits 529 / Dmg Taken 2519


Personally i don't give 2 fucks what your true maintained DPS is. Using that method i could easily parse 2k ZW as a brigand. However if someone is AFK half the zone every zone... i dont want that bitch on my raid.

Valthor

Thats why its broken down by time