No more *avoiding* The Segmented Rumbler - Page 13

Ishbu · 03-09-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stork/Atris

no sir, i don't want to change what i wrote. The Rumbler was made to be killed before the Tender. If you can kill the tender while offtanking the rumbler, then more power to you. Admitantly it isn't hard. The fact that you killed the rumbler in a broken state (yelled) and then proceeded to kill the Tender of the Seedlings, and receive loot, is what people are calling you on. Had you offtanked the rumbler, had it not been up, then there would be no contraversy. Damn I can't spell today. Anyways, see what I'm saying? I'm not sayin u exploited or didn't here, just pointing out that it's pretty obvious HOW the zone was meant to be progressed thorugh, and that by yelling, you found a way to bypass it, granted!!! you didnt receive loot from the rumbler, you received loot from other encounters, which you would'nt have gotten had you not yelled. Coprende?

So your saying that not killing the rumbler or using more exploitive methods to guarentee he is not up is fine. But not getting loot off a broken encounter is not ok? Thats the dumbest fucking logic Ive ever seen.

There are not multiple sides to this. If you say he was meant to be killed first, then anyone who did not kill him is wrong in your view. You cant say he was meant to be kileld but offtanking and wiping to him without ever kiling him is ok because that is not killing him. Either its meant to be killed and EVERYONE who ever killed the tender before the change is wrong, or what everyone did is ok. Yelling, wiping, its all the same, you didnt beat the encounter, you didnt get loot from it, end of story.

Mateo · 03-09-2007, 04:49 PM

Listen if they meant for the rumbler to be killed before you killed tender then they would of made the tender undamageable until the rumbler was dead, kinda like the prince encounter in there. Yelling/offtanking point is no one killed the fukin mob before the last update period. And Stork/Atris i really hope you have raided eh if not then just please stop talking cause whatever you say dont mean shit.

Grevious · 03-09-2007, 08:10 PM

Stork you just went against everything you said saying he was meant to be killed before the tender, therefore off tanking him and then either dying or yelling him is the same thing as just poofing him. Either way he was never killed and people by passed him. Also who really gives to shits about it they had him really about unkillable and they fixed it so who cares. No reason any named on first floor should have been so tough.

Gage · 03-10-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishbu

Either way you didnt beat the encounter. The fact is wiping to the rumbler is not beating the encounter anymore so than getting rid of it is. You cant argue against that because its true.

One way uses a specific game mechanic exploit to despawn the mob/event entirely. A mechanic that *ONLY* works on ring event mobs. Had the Rumbler been a single mob the /yell "strat' would've never been feasible. The other way takes healing, mana, a tank, and a strat. IE you're actually playing the game instead of breaking it.

The /yell mechanic was so unintended that SOE changed it in raid zones. Specifically EH. So the "strat" everyone was using to get by the Rumbler is no longer possible, period. They also "nerfed" the Rumbler and made him killable. Funny then, if yell'ing him is okay because he isn't required to be killed and you aren't getting loot that the mechanic was changed, is it not? I'm sure in his nerfed state there will still be guilds who can't beat him or offtank him and now they can't use the "legit" Disso strat to get clean pulls on the Tender.

So kindly STFU. Its embarassing to watch you EL. Its like watching Elvis when he was fat and remembering when he actually got laid.

But that's fine Kalidon, you can defend your actions till you're blue in the face, I love watching you do your hypocrit dance.

I know you're a bit smarter than you're letting on, so I'll just let it go here and maybe you can save yourself some dignity and just shut up about it. Everyone knows yelling him was weaksauce and only done because of your desire to WW1st the Gardener. So much for that.

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Originally Posted by Mateo

Yelling/offtanking point is no one killed the fukin mob before the last update period.

1) The named besides the floor bosses are random. Its entirely possible to do EH for weeks and never see the Rumbler. Fair? Probably not. Its how it works though.

2) I know of guilds, first hand knowledge mind you, who cleared to the Rumbler upon zoning into EH first, every week, to check if he was up. If he was he was pulled until it was evident he wasn't going to die and then... *gasp*.. the raid zoned out and ate the eight hour lockout to try again the next day.

Go figure, generalizing that everyone /yell'd him is absolute bullshit.

Pylon · 03-10-2007, 01:26 AM

Why the fuck are you still arguing about this non-issue?

Stork/Atris · 03-10-2007, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishbu

So your saying that not killing the rumbler or using more exploitive methods to guarentee he is not up is fine. But not getting loot off a broken encounter is not ok? Thats the dumbest fucking logic Ive ever seen.

There are not multiple sides to this. If you say he was meant to be killed first, then anyone who did not kill him is wrong in your view. You cant say he was meant to be kileld but offtanking and wiping to him without ever kiling him is ok because that is not killing him. Either its meant to be killed and EVERYONE who ever killed the tender before the change is wrong, or what everyone did is ok. Yelling, wiping, its all the same, you didnt beat the encounter, you didnt get loot from it, end of story.

Lol how the fuck am i contradicting myself, offtanking is a fucking raid stratagy. last time i checked, yelling named to progress to another was not. imagine that, they realised that this was an issue, and changed it, why because they didnt want it done. shit, i remember seeing a official forum Developer PM someone that it was indeed an exploit, and they would take measures to make sure it was not continued. granted it took a while, but they fucking fixed it.

the fact a dev stated it as an exploit should shut the fucking door. offtanking... kinda like the unicorn, is a raid strat, if u cant kill the rumbler, off tank the fucking thing while u kill tender, the thing prolly takes debuffs, a fucking able tank, and 1 healer. big deal, like tender required 4 grps of utter uberness anyways.

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oh yea and as for everyone else who is "wrong" my grping in a ghost raid. how the fuck so, can u say u never did it in roost in dynasty? i think not. not a big fucking deal. yelling a named cos the mob cant be killed is not the same.

Manyak · 03-10-2007, 04:01 PM

<---still trying to find a reason to give a shit

Ishbu · 03-10-2007, 04:56 PM

Lol at people who say it was meant to be killed before the tender but then say that not killing it and offtanking it is ok and arent even smart enough to realize how dumb they are.

Dont worry gaige, we know your full of shit. You dont play this game remember, where was your frist hand zoning out cuz the rumbler was up because that didnt happen in Dissolution and then you quit the game remember? Thats what you said. So either your full of shit about quitting the game, thus proving your a liar or your full of shit about this, proving your a liar again. This is what happens to liars, they eventually get trapped in their own web.

I cant beleive you just said that wiping is a legit strat to get around an encounter and are trying to defend it. That shows how pathetic your arguement is.

And to that other guy. I dont think your guild can even do EH so you really dont know what your talking about. I leave the crafting to the crafters, why dont you leave the raiding to the raiders because you just sound stupid.

razieh · 03-10-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stork/Atris

i remember seeing a official forum Developer PM someone that it was indeed an exploit, and they would take measures to make sure it was not continued. granted it took a while, but they fucking fixed it.

the fact a dev stated it as an exploit should shut the fucking door.

ya about that when that big ordeal was going on i privet messged a dev and asked about that And I recived a pm from that dev saying that its ok to be yelled, that it was ment to be the hardest mob in game as a bonus and he garenteed that it would be worth it but said it was ok to yell to move on.

Gage · 03-10-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by razieh

ya about that when that big ordeal was going on i privet messged a dev and asked about that And I recived a pm from that dev saying that its ok to be yelled, that it was ment to be the hardest mob in game as a bonus and he garenteed that it would be worth it but said it was ok to yell to move on.

Yeah its certainly hard and the 1H hammer is certainly worth it!

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Originally Posted by Ishbu

Gaige is right. I'm weaksauce and yelled the Rumbler in a futile effort to beat the Gardener and get to 3rd floor before Second Dawn.

About time you say something honest.