razieh

I agree, anon voting is pointless.

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Henladar Bloodheart

I dont know french but ill try my best to summarize what the true point is so you can understand.

Fixed or not... it is NOT the first time it died. It doesnt matter if sony made it 5x harder... it was not a WW 1st because it had died in the past. Get it yet?

All your doing is twisting words around. I could claim WW 1st on anything i wanted if i twisted the truth around enough. SD got WW 1st. You got WW 3rd. This is fact now just get over it.

And stop claiming you didnt talk to Grimwell because he stated that yall did. mm yea i think they can tell who is in what guild they know damn well it was you that talked to them. You were craving attention so you contacted Grim saying you killed it first. Course his dumbass said he has the logs to prove that it was the first time AoV had died when the whole EQ2 raiding community knows damn well it wasn't.

Henladar Bloodheart

I third this notion. I wanna see that even some frenchies voted for SD getting the WW 1st. Yall are a bunch of spineless bastards and you just cant fess up.

Angelys

Why we didn't kill the gimp version first? well we didn't have the bright idea to try him soon enough I guess, just like anyone else but SD!

Although we tried him a few weeks after EoF was released, and the Avatars were impossible at this time, for us at least, so we decided to keep them for later, probably waiting for a patch note stating there were nerfed or something. And at the time we also focused a lot on finishing EH. Avatars were clearly not in our plans yet, a mistake I admit.

Angelys

If you're happy with semi working encounters being world wide firsts when they're killed, then that's ok to me, but I'll just disagree. And keep claiming what I feel is right. If you think I'm an idiot for doing so, it's your own problem. I personally think you are retarded for thinking that.

And it's true that SOE is not helping much with 95% of the mobs being bugged. But it doesn't mean killing an easier version of a mob has any worth. It hasn't got any.

Of course the first time the AoV was killed, will forever be by SD. But it was not the fixed version. And that should forever be remembered too. Just like every other first kills that were on an easier version than intended, sadly.

Stop acting like robots with your "they killed the name "Avatar of Valor" first!", and use some common sense.

Levlelfe

Why we didn't kill the gimp version is as simple as my post on SD forums :

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u have to know too that we are all (i mean all the guilds that have raid content for objectif), we know all that u have this kill for a ww1rst u'll have to know too that u have been the motor for all others ww guild to start trying seriously Avatars.

Widem

There you go. It was that easy. You had focused on another part of the game and because of that someone else killed the mob before you did. plain and simple i guess this thread is done

Shaleemsha

Yeah when it all comes to lacking arguieng issues, they hit where it hurts bad..........Ethnicity

Do you Disso guys have, an actual official spokeman ? Someone that actually don't turn tail every 2 seconds, and see others as "players" not a "possible threath to our pathetic binary lust of fame"

razieh

Did I ever say YOU DAMN FRENCH, did I ever say SECOND DAWN EXPLOITED VALOR!!!! INSIDE INFO!!!!? No shut up dumbass.

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Levlelfe

But it's funny seeing Disso defend the guild that they have accused of a lot of thing for beeing the "Not so bad Second WW Guild"

Can be sure that here they not defend primally SD, but them ... dealing with the fact that there is enaught of one guild that make accomplishments before them !

I don't really know who is the dumbass here