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View Poll Results: Which guild got the true WW1st on Avatar of Valor?
Pandemonium on Storms 21 9.46%
Second Dawn on Najena 173 77.93%
Whichever guild kills it first after it is changed again 28 12.61%
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:50 AM  
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The only relevant kill in MMIS is Mayong, and SD got it first, congrats to them, it's totally deserved. The other 5 nameds are pointless. Who killed the 5 nameds first before they were made harder? See, no one cared about them, why would you now.

Wuoshi is not gonna be made any harder, unless you used amnesia to kill it. And since no one can tell how SD killed it, we can only assume they killed it legit and I'll say congrats to them once again. Same for the Gardener. They killed it first, and if they remove the lag it will be easier so it won't change anything about who killed it first.

And Stork, we killed the easier AoV the next day after they did, we were actually surprised Avatars were already killable when we learned about SD killing one. What did you do since then? Gimpsauce eh.
People will probably only remember them being the first to kill Valor in a few months, but my point still stands, it was only the bugged version, and we were the first to kill the fixed version. SD followed 2 days later.
Congrats to them AGAIN for proving they're still the best anyway, as it's the only fixed mob we killed before them.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:53 AM  
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Quoting myself as no one seemed able to answer this one.

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So if suddenly a patch totally break an Avatar that hasn't been killed, and this Avatar wouldn't do anything but auto attacking, and a random casual raiding guild that hasn't cleaned Menace decides to try it before any one else and kill it flawlessly because it would be easier than killing a random named in labo, they would deservedly be entitled of the ww1st?

You guys make so much sense.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:57 AM  
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And before saying the AoV is now just slightly harder, try it, and kill it, thanks.

People told us our first kill on him was irrelevant, I guess you either were all wrong, or SD was 1stWW on an irrelevant kill.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:15 AM  
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Listen to yourself. Saying you killed it first over and over again doesn't make it a WW 1st. Do you think this amazingly compelling 'repeat it forever' argument is actually changing any minds here? All you are doing is making yourself and your guild look foolish. It's the way a child would argue.

Try and understand, the die is set, minds are made up, opinions are formed, you are only dragging the raid community perception of you and your guild further down with this constant bleating.

Before saying you worldwide first something, try realising better guilds beat it weeks before you, thanks.

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Old 02-22-2007, 10:23 AM  
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I guess you can also take the *** away from the "EoF Progression List" thread as both versions are obviously the same! There's no point in adding them then. And killing the fixed version doesn't mean shit now it seems.

And Pronoia, I guess we were a better guild too when we killed the first version weeks before our second kill on the fixed version.
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Before saying you worldwide first something, try realising better guilds beat it weeks before you, thanks.

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We ww3rd the crapp one (the next day of ww1st announcement)
We ww1st the fixed one
That's all


Why did on EQ2Flame ranking there is a *** to annouce that the guild involved kill the crapp version if it is not so important ?

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Old 02-22-2007, 10:41 AM  
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I guess you can also take the *** away from the "EoF Progression List" thread as both versions are obviously the same! There's no point in adding them then. And killing the fixed version doesn't mean shit now it seems.

And Pronoia, I guess we were a better guild too when we killed the first version weeks before our second kill on the fixed version.
Finally you get it, killing the fixed verison doesn't mean shit now and it didn't ever mean shit. No one gave a fuck who killed the various versions of Vyemm, no one gave a fuck who killed the fixed Tarinax and guess what? No one gives a fuck you killed a fixed avatar. See how that works?

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Old 02-22-2007, 10:45 AM  
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I guess you can also take the *** away from the "EoF Progression List" thread as both versions are obviously the same! There's no point in adding them then. And killing the fixed version doesn't mean shit now it seems.

And Pronoia, I guess we were a better guild too when we killed the first version weeks before our second kill on the fixed version.
No, I was referring to the two better guilds that have actually achieved something world wide that killed the broken version before you.

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Comprenez bien que je parle en mon nom et que je m'en tape un peu le cul de savoir qui a down quoi qd où comment ...

Je sais juste que nous avons down le mob fix en 1st WW et le mob non fix en 3rdWW ... WOOOOT !!! (tiens d'ailleurs j'ai voté pour les 2 ...)

maintenant faut savoir ce qui compte réellement ... un mob dans sa premiere version ? un mob fix ? une version nerf d'un mob ?

Pour moi down un mob non fix en 1st WW n'a pas d'interet, hé ouais c'est con mais je préfére me casser le cul sur un contenu fix ou qui va etre revu a la hausse que sur un mob batard pas finalisé ...

enfin bref je crois que nous avons été que 3 ou 4 guildes a le tomber dans sa premiere mouture ... et seulement 2 guildes a le tomber apres son fix donc en gros tout ceux qui postent car ce sont des fans boys de Disso, allez taper un peu ce mob tombez le et ca sera GG a vous aussi mais svp ... stop dire nawak !

Pour ce qui est de la communication avec SoE ... ce n'est pas moi qui les avons contacter mais eux pour nous demander ce qu'on avait de nouveaux a proposer alors vi j'ai eu la vanité de leur dire que nous avions eu un mob fix en premier.

Voila c'est tout pour moi, LFG tu fais ce que tu veux avec ce post en francais tu le traduis via un traducteur si tu veux, tu le delete, tu fais ce qui te passe par la tete avec, je m'en fout
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Wuoshi is working as intended, but u can exploited him (Did u see all the kill of him, did u know how many guild made their strat by avoiding wuoshi's adds ? i guess no)

AoV v1 is not working as intended, not coz of exploited, coz of a script bug.

Here is the difference.


U can fight Wuoshi right now, and after the futur patch with the same strat if u manage to kill wuoshi's adds since u kill him
That is not the case with AoV that's all.
Basically, you're saying that because Hurricanas was changed due to a script bug, that EC did not get the WW1st on him? But just how do you kill adds, that despawn on you?
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