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View Poll Results: Which guild got the true WW1st on Avatar of Valor?
Pandemonium on Storms 21 9.46%
Second Dawn on Najena 173 77.93%
Whichever guild kills it first after it is changed again 28 12.61%
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:39 PM  
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I think grimwell gave them the " I win" Potion for getting the "WW1st" on the add
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Sorry Pandemonium. You did not first anything except the Priest of Truth. Um.. Grats? You WW1st'ed an add. Fucking uber.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:40 PM  
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Ishbu, you were the first to say it was a broken gimp version of the real mob back in January, because it had almost one or 2 minutes with no add sometimes, when the priests were supposed to spawn, people from your own guilds agreed with it. What happened.
I still agree with that, that doesnt change the fact they still got the first legit kill on the mob. I dont know how long you've been raiding, Ive been raiding for over 2 years. They changed the mob because somethings werent right with it, they will change it again like they have done to every mother fucking mob since the game was released.

If saying that a mob being changed to be slightly harder invalidates all previous kills, then a mob being changed to be made easier would mean that all kills after the change dont count right because you didnt kill the correct/harder version? No of course not, you still killed the mob in whatever form was present on that day.

Can you stand here and say that SD would not have killed the mob on the same day if the priests had been spawning? If you cant, then you cannot discredit them, period.
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Southern, I guess you're waiting for a patch to completely break an avatar, and then proceed to kill it ww1st!

That's probably why you want your analogy to be heard so much.

But it can easily be made obsolete, because if you can only use mathematics, then Tarinax got first killed by NPU. And we all know the first WW goes to Dissolution, even though the mob was broken for months, it's still a WW1st, and when it got fixed, this mob had became a complete joke so no one cared who killed it first then, and there was no point claiming it.
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Southern, I guess you're waiting for a patch to completely break an avatar, and then proceed to kill it ww1st!

That's probably why you want your analogy to be heard so much.

But it can easily be made obsolete, because if you can only use mathematics, then Tarinax got first killed by NPU. And we all know the first WW goes to Dissolution, even though the mob was broken for months, it's still a WW1st, and when it got fixed, this mob had became a complete joke so no one cared who killed it first then, and there was no point claiming it.
Because that was not legit. They had not gotten DT access, nobody in the world had. They made use of a bug to get into the zone wich is not legit. But that issue is dead.

The fact is, it was not SD's fault at all that the mob when they killed it before anyone else could was in that state. You cant say they wouldnt have killed it all the same and if anything, their actions prove they would have.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:43 PM  
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1st of all that has nothing to do with my analogy

2nd i could give 2 shits about a contested mob *gasps*
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:43 PM  
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So when Tari got changed it was NOT worthy of a new WW 1st (even though they made the adds work) but When Valor was changed (by making the adds work) its worthy of a new WW 1st? DUMB AS HELL LOGIC!

Both those mobs were made to have the adds work... How the hell does so said guild not get the WW 1st for Tari?
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When Tarinax was fixed, his kill was worthy, if you consider killing Vilucidae was worthy too.
Tarinax and the AoV are not playing in the same league.
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I wish you all would quit playing semantics and just finish this already.

By you all I mean those members of Pandemonium who are claiming that this is right.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:49 PM  
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Hell i dont even really care tbh....

i just like a good flame session
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Because that was not legit. They had not gotten DT access, nobody in the world had. They made use of a bug to get into the zone wich is not legit. But that issue is dead.

The fact is, it was not SD's fault at all that the mob when they killed it before anyone else could was in that state. You cant say they wouldnt have killed it all the same and if anything, their actions prove they would have.
Exactly, and this is one question I brought up yesterday. Second Dawn deserves a WW1st because they proved they could kill the harder version.

Now if a guild happened to not being able to kill the fixed version, and someone else do it, would they still deserve their WW1st kill?
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