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Old 05-07-2009, 11:55 AM  
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Quick question out there for those in the know. Working this mob, and just having a hard time understanding how his effect is one shotting folks with 10-12k hps (clothies mostly). When I read his effect, it doesn't appear that it should do that kind of damage when you are outside of the 10m.

We blow through the adds, and start working him down and then bam, 4-10 people dead and he heals back up. We're actively working a strat but at this point we're curious as to if something may be bugged to make the AE do that kind of damage. Unless for some odd reason the crit multiplier of this mob is through the roof. Even 2x damage shouldnt do 12k, unless the effect is just worded incorrectly.

Any ideas?

The thing is, if that amount of damage is supposed to be what happens then we can work through that somehow, but from what I can read it shouldn't be hitting that hard.
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Get more mitigation or HP for them.
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It's a physical ae, and 3k mitigation on robe wearers is the same as 3k resist to any other ae. Bard defense songs with the mitigation buff, preward each ae, crit mit and you'll be fine.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:08 PM  
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Get more mitigation or HP for them.

That's what we were looking at, but what I (we) are having a hard time understanding is how can an effect listed to do 3k-4.5k (between 15 - 900m) be hitting for 12k + I think one time I got hit for 13.5k. Granted I only have around 2900mit and 32% crit mit but still....

It just seems "broken". But if you are saying that's just the way it is then it's a good start for us and we can develop a way to work around it.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:21 PM  
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how exactly does that say 3-4.5k in the 15-900 meter range? I took the liberty of highlighting the different ranges for you :p

12347 unmitigated top end before crits.. clothies don't generally reduce physical hits very much, and they need to completely negate the crit bonus with crit mit or they'll still probably get railed with normal caster HP.
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Just use pre-wards for the squishies, or AoE block if you're having more trouble. co-ordinate tort shell and countersong and you should be fine.

If your templar isn't keeping their melee dps in on the mob full time, have them toss repent on one of the squishies. Even if they are, if they're smart, they can still keep their melee dps in and help keep a squishy from dying.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:29 PM  
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Hmmm, ok. I guess the screenshot I saw of the effect was old maybe?

And wouldn't the "12,347" be the crit value? That would be a multiplier of 1.5 x the base 8231 no? So an unmitigated crit should be 12,347?

I think we are going to look at the pre-wards and rotation blockers, we started that toward the end of the night. I just wanted to make sure the effect was supposed to be hitting that hard and that we weren't just doing something wrong. (well, other than dying obviously!)
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:32 PM  
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no, crits don't show on examine window.

the damage range is native - every class has spells that do from a min damage to a max damage..

I can't believe you're raiding TSO and I had to tell you that
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Hmmm, ok. I guess the screenshot I saw of the effect was old maybe?
Then I recommend that you look for yourself at AE that is wiping over and over.
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And wouldn't the "12,347" be the crit value? That would be a multiplier of 1.5 x the base 8231 no? So an unmitigated crit should be 12,347?
Why do you think bolt of ice shows a max damage of ~23k and hits for 80k?
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I think we are going to look at the pre-wards and rotation blockers, we started that toward the end of the night. I just wanted to make sure the effect was supposed to be hitting that hard and that we weren't just doing something wrong. (well, other than dying obviously!)
This is not the first mob that you ever tried pre warding on right? right?
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:54 PM  
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I've only been playing around a year, so I don't claim to know every ins and outs of the entire game mechanics. That's why I ask questions... to learn.

But thanks anyway.
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