Illuminator

Are there any casual players that are ACTUALLY visiting the avatars for the buffs?

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Pinski

No. Why? Because the buffs suck. For example Sol Ro gives you a +100 power buff. Big fucking deal.

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Azmoran

It was more like +100power +100health and about +200 Fire mitigation and it all lasted 5 hours. Still big whup. But since I finally got to see it first time other day thought I would make this more accurate.

Renaven

This is basically just like Raina's idea, but with a couple of very minor modifications.

Here's what I'd like to see:

The two Avatars with the first and second highest favor are on a 4-6 day spawn timer.
The two Avatars with the third and fourth highest favor are on a 6-8 day spawn timer.
The two Avatars with the fifth and sixth highest favor are on a 8-10 day spawn timer.
The two Avatars with the seventh and eighth highest favor are on a 10-12 day spawn timer.

I'd like for you to make it so each Avatar drops one item every time from the shared Avatar loot table, like Raina suggested. In addition, I'd like you to give each Avatar a 15-20% chance to drop their Avatar specific drops. That way, you'll usually get one item, but sometimes you'll get two.

I like this idea because of a few reasons: it gives raiders more to kill, it works well with the favor system, and more.

It makes sense from many other angles as well. It builds community -- noobs always love to watch uber guilds take on the Avatars. Some low-level people also like to receive the buffs that the Avatars give. Also, it makes sense in the sense that every Avatar should have their presense be known.

The current system HAS to go. With the way it is now, no one will ever see Fear's specific drops, etc. I believe my suggestion (which is Raina's with a little spin on it) would work the best for everyone, and make people enjoy EQ2 a lot more.

Edit: This is just a very quick idea I had, so it's not completely fleshed out. You could also do something like:

Once the Avatars with the first and second highest favor dies, they lose 100% favor.
Once the Avatars with the third and fourth highest favor dies, they lose 75% favor.
Once the Avatars with the fifth and sixth highest favor dies, they lose 50% favor.
Once the Avatars with the seventh and eighth highest favor dies, they lose 25% favor.

This is just one idea to help rotate around how many Avatars are on the "quick spawn" timer.

Slippery

I like the spin at the end of Ren's post because it makes it so you never really know the spawn timer of any of the avatars. I completely agree with his post.

Also, no one has said it but I think everyone has just kind of wanted it to be so. No despawning Avatars when they are all on seperate timers.

Snark

i completely agree with renavens suggestions. this lets us see all the avatars and have many due at a single time, and also makes it so its not just a huge influx of loot.

great solution

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Illuminator

I dunno, our friend KidRon seems content with the way things are...

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Raina

I like the modifications Renaven. Something like that I think seem very doable and it gives everyone everything they want without taking hardly anything, if nothing, away from the community as a whole and may actually encourage more people to learn about their Avatar. SoE might even want to improve on the blessings the avatars give; one thing at a time though :P

Niber

KidRon is a Graphics Programmer.

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Illuminator

Yeah but he's only a few cubes over from the decision makers, right?

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