holy crap make avatars spawn faster - Page 13

Traxor · 04-09-2007, 11:31 AM

flame, war, valor, war, valor ..........should i go ahead and camp my char off at war again?

Frogdorr · 04-09-2007, 02:28 PM

spawn them too quick and the same people will start bitching there is no challenge left in game

Frogdorr · 04-09-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Renaven

This is basically just like Raina's idea, but with a couple of very minor modifications.

Here's what I'd like to see:

The two Avatars with the first and second highest favor are on a 4-6 day spawn timer.
The two Avatars with the third and fourth highest favor are on a 6-8 day spawn timer.
The two Avatars with the fifth and sixth highest favor are on a 8-10 day spawn timer.
The two Avatars with the seventh and eighth highest favor are on a 10-12 day spawn timer.

I'd like for you to make it so each Avatar drops one item every time from the shared Avatar loot table, like Raina suggested. In addition, I'd like you to give each Avatar a 15-20% chance to drop their Avatar specific drops. That way, you'll usually get one item, but sometimes you'll get two.

I like this idea because of a few reasons: it gives raiders more to kill, it works well with the favor system, and more.

It makes sense from many other angles as well. It builds community -- noobs always love to watch uber guilds take on the Avatars. Some low-level people also like to receive the buffs that the Avatars give. Also, it makes sense in the sense that every Avatar should have their presense be known.

The current system HAS to go. With the way it is now, no one will ever see Fear's specific drops, etc. I believe my suggestion (which is Raina's with a little spin on it) would work the best for everyone, and make people enjoy EQ2 a lot more.

Edit: This is just a very quick idea I had, so it's not completely fleshed out. You could also do something like:

Once the Avatars with the first and second highest favor dies, they lose 100% favor.
Once the Avatars with the third and fourth highest favor dies, they lose 75% favor.
Once the Avatars with the fifth and sixth highest favor dies, they lose 50% favor.
Once the Avatars with the seventh and eighth highest favor dies, they lose 25% favor.

This is just one idea to help rotate around how many Avatars are on the "quick spawn" timer.

Sweet idea! A+

Ladred · 04-09-2007, 03:01 PM

I am a raider, I love to raid. I've not been on an Avatar kill yet, but I have gone out of my way on every raid night, to check to see if my Avatar was up to grab the buff before raid.

With that said, the Avatars being up, in my opinion, is important. Having them up, and killed instantly is a bit craptacular for those of us that like to see the avatar, and get the buff.

If you want a different Avatar to spawn, rally together and work different favor. I remember on Neriak when they global plague hit, no one wanted to work together to cure the plague. It just went on and on and on until a group of people, Ascendance and lots others, got together to cure it. Its intended to be a global dynamic, so if you're seeing the same Avatar, then figure out a way to work globally to influence which avatar spawns.

I would like to see more Avatars up at a time, so my only suggestion on the global favor dynamic is to modify it so that it takes less global favor to spawn avatars, and make it so multiples can be up at a time. Where its at right now, guilds are waiting to kill the avatars so the instant they spawn, they die. If more were up at any given time, I think there would be more chance to go and snag the avatar buffs.

(edit) What ever you do, don't remove the Global Favor Avatar System! I believe its a great idea, it just need polish.

Illuminator · 04-09-2007, 03:03 PM

What exactly is the buff that you are getting from your avatar(s)?

Ladred · 04-09-2007, 03:47 PM

To be honest, its been a while since I've caught her up, so don't quote me on this. If I remember correctly its a % chance increase on heal crit. I've posted a message asking for verification, and I think I might have a screenshot of it at home.

Even though I've not caught her up very much, I still go and check. Its a 'Be Prepared' thing, for some reason something hammered that crap in to my head when I was young and I can't get it out.

Grevious · 04-09-2007, 04:05 PM

Looks like the devs are completely avoiding this post or just care not to post on it which really makes you believe they dont give a shit. I mean this site has really helped lots of feedback from devs for gear and other things have helped alot so kinda odd they arent posting at all on this.

Slippery · 04-09-2007, 04:47 PM

The mindset of they haven't said anything so they don't think it is a probelm is quite often a very misplaced mindset. Quite often when nothing is said is because they either have nothing to say or can't say anything. If they are working on a solution but haven't figured out what exactly they are going to do there is quite simply nothing they can say, because if they say something and that solution never comes to pass they are going to get hanged even more. Even when they realize there is a problem with something it could still very well be quite a while before they come up with a working solution that they can get out.

Arangor · 04-09-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Grevious

Looks like the devs are completely avoiding this post or just care not to post on it which really makes you believe they dont give a shit. I mean this site has really helped lots of feedback from devs for gear and other things have helped alot so kinda odd they arent posting at all on this.

Hold your horses mate, the devs don't come here to get projects assigned, go work on them and come back with what you want to hear. This isn't the official forums either, you've been spoiled by archonix' vehemence to fix itemization.

I would guess most devs aren't going to post much on here for worry of getting a thousand irate response, millions of PMs, people Screenshotting what they say to later use as flame fuel, etc. Believe me I'd love for the developers to actively be a part of every one of these threads, but jumping to the conclusion that because one of them hasn't responded in a eq2 flame site yet means they don't give a shit is about as clever as wrapping lettuce around dick and walking naked into a rabbit cage.

Grevious · 04-09-2007, 07:15 PM

Yeah but do you think they are actually thinking or going to change avatars I for one doubt it. This game is a instance raiding game with contested perks and nothing more. Would it hurt to have more contested and if one or 2 guilds can get most the kills and just have retardly better gear then everyone else no. The gap between the hardcore raiders and casual to non raiders is not what it should be. Granted there is a seperation but not enough imo. I am not in a hardcore guild myself and havnt killed any avatars but my god just doesnt seem hard for them all to have seperate spawns or something quicker and then actually have more then 2 or 3 contested its rediculous.