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They should split their timers or come up with some other solution to make them spawn faster 163 81.50%
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:00 PM  
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afaik there is a way to spawn avatars over and over.
What, like crashing a zone?
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:30 PM  
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You are dumb Gungo. Way to miss the point of my post. Was anybody suspended because of the Rumbler incident. No, was it an exploit. Technically yes it was an exploit. THIS IS THE EXACT SAME SITUATION BEING PLAYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Yet nobody seems to care. It is an abuse of game mechanics due to the fucking way avatars spawn. It is not a fault of the players, nobody is blaming anybody but SoE. But the fact is, the situations are the same fucking thing. Loot was gained which should not have, since nobody seems to care, I put an exact reasoning behind mine. CL2 on Butcherblock had the Valor DESPAWNED SO THAT AFTERMATH WOULD NOT KILL IT. Get it, if that can happen on 1 server, it should be happening on EVERY SERVER. Therefore, loot was gain which should not have happened. It's the EXACT same scenario as the rumbler. Loot was gained off the tender which should not have been due to the rumbler not being legitimately killed. Get it now? See the exact same situation happening again and again. If 1 GM decides to despawn an avatar it says that all GMs should be doing it, and therefore it is a fault of SoE for having GMs not doing their job by watching the game and despawning the avatars which should NOT be up.
except in the rumblers case a known exploit of YELLING a ring event was used. Intentionally and in some guilds cases even after the developers publicly stated it was an exploit.
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if we can take one thing away from the whole rumbler fiasco its that theres a difference between an exploit and "not working as intended". I think LFG and Gaige were too quick to call exploit on something that was just purely not working as intended.
Except the designer who made the Rumbler said yelling it was an exploit. It wasn't broken, it was too hard. It was harder than everything else in EH and it was blocking progression. While he said yelling it didn't matter in the "grand scheme of things" he very clearly, on this very forum, said that it was an exploit. So therefore I couldn't have been too quick to call it what it was, thanks.

The avatars though truly are not working as intended because when a zone has a contested in it its supposed to do one of two things:

a) Generate a new instance without the contested in it.

b) Not generate a new instace at all.

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LFG im not going to sugarcoat this at all. The reason gaige made such a shitfit about it was b/c we made fun of him all the time b/c he was a dumbass. You couldnt hear this b/c of course you cant use vent but he was fucking driving everyone fucking insane.
I act the way I act on purpose. To think otherwise is silly. Everything I do and say is to illicit a certain response or reaction. Its not as if you can be as over the top and extreme about shit as I am on accident. Sure I'm probably bipolar with ADD but that only adds to my fun. Actually I have a big smile on my face now knowing I was driving all of you insane.

I do the same shit in CL vent and yet I'm still there. You can harp on what you believe to be the reasons I left all you want, but it isn't the truth.

In fact the only reason I even stayed in Disso as long as I did was the plant. I loved the plant.

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And gaige, clearly ive hurt your feeligns otherwise you wouldnt be here commenting on something that had nothing to do with you. The only reason you name ever entered this is because LFG begged for you to come in and help him. Oh btw if your actively playing agian I guess that makes me right and you wrong on how this is just a better game than vangard.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this game is better than Vanguard. However I was bored and VG was new. I think lots of people have quit EQ2 and come back, so it shouldn't be some OH MY GOD moment when I do it. Even you have quit!

I fuck with you because I can, and because its fun. Because I know how you really are. Because I've seen your rl pic and talked to someone who has met you irl and it makes me laugh uncontrollably with how you act on here. You really are Cracatoa 2.0. But if it makes you feel better about yourself; you can think your online persona has hurt my online persona's feelings.

To be honest though I miss our phone conversations. When you used to get mad at Fern and others like Axkiva and pout and say your net was down and then call me and bitch about them. Those were good times. I guess I just <3 your voice, wanna make out?
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I thought the difference between the 3P exploit was people INTENTIONALLY left the adds up. So that the 3P would respawn so that they could farm the princes and get multiple chests. Totally different then people comign to watch your raid and spawnign a second instance. One of the 2 took an actual and intentional act to exploit a mob.
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It'd be different IF we did that. Besides, you have to kill the adds to get a chest.
err actually when you guys did that. You actually mezzed the adds, then killed the 3pp, looted the chest then evac'd. This would then reset the enncounter. This then resulted in several suspensions and loot taken away. But lets not bring up questionable past exploits.
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:52 PM  
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"err actually when you guys did that. You actually mezzed the adds, then killed the 3pp, looted the chest then evac'd. This would then reset the enncounter. This then resulted in several suspensions and loot taken away. But lets not bring up questionable past exploits."


Plz dont talk about things that u do not know about. we never evac'd on the 3p's ever. And still to this day we sometimes mez the adds. We ever petitioned this to see if it was fucked up, and they told us it wasnt. The only thing u can compare the 3p's to is NPU's clearing zek over and over again, once again they petitioned it and it was said that it was ok.

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Old 04-15-2007, 03:25 PM  
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Lotro > Solitaire > chasing the rock around the yard > watching grass grow > eatting paint chips > vanguard
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Old 04-15-2007, 03:30 PM  
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it was not my intention when making this thread to have it dissolve into another meaningless debate about the rumbler, the three princes, or ethics. please keep all posts about avatars and their recent changes and spawn times so maybe something can actually be gained in this. also people who quit the game stop posting THANKS GAIGE!^_^ (<3u)
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also people who quit the game stop posting THANKS GAIGE!^_^ (<3u)
As I stated in this thread I'm back actively playing EQ2. l2r. I also think all the avatars should spawn independently of each other.
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